More money down the gas tank

Rising Gas PricesIn an unusual twist, news of higher gas prices started this week in Los Angeles. Generally, our prices top LA’s first.  On Saturday, the Los Angeles Times reported that prices had reach nearly $4.00 a gallon just in time for President’s Day.  Later in the week, the $4.00 gallon reached the Eastern Sierra.

The LA Times and other sources point to the higher price of oil and the shutdown of some California refineries for maintenance as what caused the price hike.  Analysts see the $5.00 gallon of gas shortly ahead.  The Auto Club was quoted as saying the $5.00 gallon may turn up in some places in April or May.

In the Eastern Sierra, as of Tuesday, a gallon of unleaded in Mammoth Lakes sold for $4.36 to $4.39.  In the Owens Valley, prices ranged from $3.80 on the low end up to $4.15.  In the typically pricey neighborhood of Bridgeport, a gallon of unleaded sold for $4.89.

Various sources say that the price of oil is mostly to blame.  About.com said the the price of oil impacts 55% of gas prices.  The Los Angeles Times wrote that oil makes up 80% of the price of gasoline.  CNN’s Fareed Zakaria  has reported that oil producing companies raise the price of oil to balance their growing budgets.  Others say fears of military action against Iran impact oil prices.  So do commodities traders who buy and sell futures contracts, which are agreements to buy or sell oil at a specific price on a specific date.  By bidding up oil prices, traders can actually create higher prices.

And, there is typically a greater demand for gasoline in the Spring and Summer.  It all points to the pocket book of the consumer.

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74 Responses to More money down the gas tank

  1. upthecreek February 22, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

    I wonder what 5-6 dollars gas will do to the tourist Biz. ?

    We may find out this Summer

    Staycations anyone???

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    • Ken Warner February 22, 2012 at 10:21 pm #

      You don’t remember 2008 when we had another gas spike? I recall $5.35 at the shell station. Oil was selling for $180 a barrel. It’s about $105 a barrel now. There was no particular reason for the 2008 gas spike except speculation.

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  2. Rob February 23, 2012 at 9:57 am #

    I’ll bet gas prices go down right before the election

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  3. enoughalready February 23, 2012 at 7:09 pm #

    Okay, folks have you had enough yet? Do you think the economy will recover with these gas prices? No, it won’t. How can it? If there is going to be a revolution we waited too long. Now we will have to walk.
    Where is the Occupy Movement?(not that they matter much) Its time to move past Wall Street and head to Big Oil. You might have to do more than have sleep-overs in the park and make cute little signs. We might have to make a lot of personal sacifices to get the point across. Its too late for the alternative measures like electric/hybrid cars. Who can afford those now? How will you be able to in the future? All your “extra” money will be going in your gas tank, so you can go to work, so you can put money in your gas tank and so on and so on.
    Its not a matter of local economy and “stay-cations” Its about a global market run by Big Oil. Its about the American economy based on Big Oil. It has got to stop. Whats worse is the little whimpy fearful speculators that are causing this. Its just flat out greed. Sure they throw all kinds of lame excuses for the reasonings behind the high price of crude. Everybody buys into it….there is “turmoil” in the Middle East or Iran…..When has there not been turmoil in the Middle East? Its just fear based lies fuel by greed. Thats it. It is not just Obama. Its Big Oil and they will brag again about their huge profits. We have got to stop this cycle.
    From what I hear, we have large reserves of gas/fuel/oil. Production is on the increase for U.S. oils. (not OPEC oil) What do we use those reserves for? What is the point of production? Wouldn’t this be a good time to use the reserves? Would this not be a good time for Obama to step up to the plate and bail-out the American People and our economy?
    Here is the contact page to the President http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact. E-mail him daily. Let him hear your voice. Let him know now would be a great time to be leader.

    Hows that for a little rant!

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    • Big AL February 25, 2012 at 10:42 pm #

      I agree enough.

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    • Ken Warner February 26, 2012 at 9:32 am #

      First Obama is called a socialist because he want’s everybody to have adequate health care. Now he’s not socialist enough because people can’t afford to fill the gas tanks of their Firestorm 16000 so they can drive Rover to the dog park.

      He’s anti-business and anti-American because he doesn’t flood the U.S with ankle deep oil yet under Obama, there are more operating oil rigs since 1998 and it’s still not enough.

      http://www.wtrg.com/rotaryrigs.html

      It’s all just too hard for me to understand….

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  4. Ken Warner February 25, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    Here’s the text of the President’s weekly address:

    ———

    Hello, everybody.

    In the State of the Union, I laid out three areas we need to focus on if we’re going to build an economy that lasts: new American manufacturing, new skills and education for American workers, and new sources of American-made energy.

    These days, we’re getting another painful reminder why developing new energy is so important to our future. Just like they did last year, gas prices are starting to climb. Only this time, it’s happening earlier. And that hurts everyone – everyone who owns a car; everyone who owns a business. It means you have to stretch your paycheck even further. Some folks have no choice but to drive a long way to work, and high gas prices are like a tax straight out of their paychecks.

    Now, some politicians always see this as a political opportunity. And since it’s an election year, they’re already dusting off their three-point plans for $2 gas. I’ll save you the suspense: Step one is drill, step two is drill, and step three is keep drilling. We hear the same thing every year.

    Well the American people aren’t stupid. You know that’s not a plan – especially since we’re already drilling. It’s a bumper sticker. It’s not a strategy to solve our energy challenge. It’s a strategy to get politicians through an election.

    You know there are no quick fixes to this problem, and you know we can’t just drill our way to lower gas prices. If we’re going to take control of our energy future and avoid these gas price spikes down the line, then we need a sustained, all-of-the-above strategy that develops every available source of American energy – oil, gas, wind, solar, nuclear, biofuels, and more. We need to keep developing the technology that allows us to use less oil in our cars and trucks; in our buildings and plants. That’s the strategy we’re pursuing, and that’s the only real solution to this challenge.

    Now, we absolutely need safe, responsible oil production here in America. That’s why under my Administration, America is producing more oil today than at any time in the last eight years. In 2010, our dependence on foreign oil was under 50% for the first time in more than a decade. And while there are no short-term silver bullets when it comes to gas prices, I’ve directed my administration to look for every single area where we can make an impact and help consumers in the months ahead, from permitting to delivery bottlenecks to what’s going on in the oil markets.

    But over the long term, an all-of-the-above energy strategy means we have to do more. It means we have to make some choices.

    Here’s one example. Right now, four billion of your tax dollars subsidize the oil industry every year. Four billion dollars.

    Imagine that. Maybe some of you are listening to this in your car right now, pulling into a gas station to fill up. As you watch those numbers rise, know that oil company profits have never been higher. Yet somehow, Congress is still giving those same companies another four billion dollars of your money. That’s outrageous. It’s inexcusable. And it has to stop.

    A century of subsidies to the oil companies is long enough. It’s time to end taxpayer giveaways to an industry that’s never been more profitable, and use that money to reduce our deficit and double-down on a clean energy industry that’s never been more promising. Because of the investments we’ve already made, the use of wind and solar energy in this country has nearly doubled – and thousands of Americans have jobs because of it. And because we put in place the toughest fuel economy standards in history, our cars will average nearly 55 miles per gallon by the middle of the next decade – something that, over time, will save the typical family more than $8,000 at the pump. Now Congress needs to keep that momentum going by renewing the clean energy tax credits that will lead to more jobs and less dependence on foreign oil.

    Look, we know there’s no silver bullet that will bring down gas prices or reduce our dependence on foreign oil overnight. But what we can do is get our priorities straight, and make a sustained, serious effort to tackle this problem. That’s the commitment we need right now. And with your help, it’s a commitment we can make. Thank you.

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  5. STEVEN February 25, 2012 at 10:10 am #

    American soldiers burn a coran because it was being used to send plots against Americans.
    In revenge, now these terrorist culture of people we are over there protecting and trying to make more like us, have killed at least 7 Americans because of this. And all our pathetic President can do is apologize for burning this coran.
    Now here in Mammoth, our gas prices are about at $5 a gallon! however Mr President wants to make friend with the Government of Iran! He is telling Israel that they need to have patience and not attack Iran, even if Iran is going to level them as soon as they get a bomb.
    This President needs to grow some balls!
    PS: Sorry I probably did not spell Coran correctly. Who gives a crap!

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    • Benett Kessler February 25, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

      Steve,
      These deaths are unspeakable. Instead of attacking the President’s anatomy, however, how about we get out of Afghanistan? Going to war with Iran would likely be a disaster unless there is no other recourse. That’s not yet obvious. Making an effort to live peacefully has to be first. Our country has plenty of weaponry to go to the worst case scenario if it happens. Knee jerk adrenaline is not the answer to living together unless someone has a gun pointed at your face.

      And, don’t forget, it was Obama who oversaw the killing of Osama Bin Laden.

      Benett

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      • STEVEN February 25, 2012 at 3:05 pm #

        Actually, it was brave American soldiers who over saw it and put their lives at risk! I give Oblama no credit. All he did was watch on a TV with the other goons. I see your point and I also wish for peace, however, that culture over there knows nothing but war. They are literally breed for war. If we are weak, they will kill us. If we are strong they will kill us but we will kill them back. It’s a mess being a super power, but you have to have some balls to do it! Even if there little ones. He has to do something other than apologize!

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        • Benett Kessler February 25, 2012 at 4:47 pm #

          So, if Bin Laden had been killed during the Bush Administration, would you have credited President Bush and his “balls”?
          BK

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          • STEVEN February 26, 2012 at 9:50 am #

            No. Bush is gone now. I have no interest in talking about the mess he left behind. I am not a Republican ether. There is nobody running for the office that can do the job right this time, and we the people are going to pay dearly for it, starting with high gas prices! when this Country has leaders that dont run it like a football game and quit bickering like third graders fighting over candy on the schoolyard, then maybe people like me will regain some confidence in our so called leaders. I dont hate our president, I just think he sucks at what he has been hired to do, thats all. And Ken, This ain’t a movie and I dont watch much TV. Only news and documentaries. I,m very informed! But if and when I am wrong about something, I will be the first to admit it.

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      • Big AL February 25, 2012 at 11:44 pm #

        Peace or no peace, we can’t afford to go to war at this time, we do have weaponry, but our military strength is right now is stretched. We were barely able to keep two fronts going, and don’t forget Korea. If he had to open up another front, we couldn’t sustain it and the other two fronts.
        We don’t have the where with all right now to deal with the worst case scenario.

        We are rated number two in number of troops, second to China.

        We are rated number one in strength.

        China is a big threat, and their regular army is is very well trained and disciplined.

        I’m not quite sure where the knee jerk adrenaline came into play in your response Bennet. Steve was merely pointing out that the president needs to be firm with these other countries, and not give into them and apologies and kiss their hind ends for everything that happens.
        I think we have more going for us, to not have knee jerk adrenaline responses, history shows that, it shows who jerks their knees and who doesn’t.
        And it doesn’t have anything to do with how big certain things are or not …. it has to do with whether you roll over or if you stand up to the threats.

        Live together, yes, but give in to people who hate and want to rid the earth of anyone who is not a believer of their faith, no way!

        obama, just happened to be in the white house when they got bin laden, it doesn’t lend any special thoughts toward him doing that. He’s just a player in the game.

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        • Benett Kessler February 26, 2012 at 10:56 am #

          I have to agree with Ken Warner. You all have seen too many John Wayne movies.
          You’ve missed my point entirely. The point – intelligent thought applied to
          serious and threatening situations should precede war. Human relations, even
          in families and neighborhoods, require consideration and reason first.
          BK

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          • DisgruntledGovDrone February 27, 2012 at 12:03 pm #

            Benett,
            I have to disagree with you. You can not use consideration and reason with religious fanatics, or any other kind of fanatic or crazy person. You can try, but you will probably be disappointed in the results.

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          • Benett Kessler February 27, 2012 at 2:00 pm #

            The point I am trying to make is that angry responses to highly serious, involved and major international issues does not work well.

            I’m suggesting that it takes a great deal more thought and consideration of all the factors before taking action. For example, Zbigniew Brzezinski appeared on Fareed Zakaria’s Sunday show on CNN. Check out his credentials – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski. He was the UN National Security Advisor to President Carter, handled many major international developments during that time and is currently Professor of American Foreign Policy at John Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies. His take on Iran was that President Obama must let Israel know in absolute terms that they can not attack Iran at this time, that it would appear America supported this move and that any attack on Iran would be a major “disaster” in that region of the world. Brzezinski also said that information reveals that Iran does not have the capability of making and delivering a nuclear bomb even though they may have some of the components.

            Certainly this kind of issue needs immediate and deep consideration but not a macho punch to the jaw.

            Benett Kessler

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    • Ken Warner February 25, 2012 at 4:24 pm #

      You’ve been watching too many John Wayne movies.

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    • Ken Warner February 26, 2012 at 4:10 pm #

      Here is a more reliable description of the incident which Steven uses to construct his fantasy:

      “Afghanistan erupted in violent demonstrations after the troops burned the Islamic religious material at the beginning of the week.

      Two American troops were killed Thursday by a man wearing an Afghan National Army uniform, a U.S. official said, asking not to be named discussing casualties. The gunman is thought to have been acting in conjunction with a protest outside the base, the official said.

      In a letter delivered to Afghan President Hamid Karzai, Obama called the act “inadvertent,” Karzai’s office and National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said Thursday.

      “We will take the appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence, including holding accountable those responsible,” Obama said in the letter delivered by Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan.”

      1) Sadly, 2 Americans were killed. But even more tragically, there have been 1900 Americans killed in Afghanistan since the war started. Since Bush “invaded” Afghanistan to get bin Ladin and then forgot about him, shouldn’t Bush be apologizing to the people of the U.S.?

      2) The Quran is a sacred document. There’s 3 million Muslims in the U.S. Nearly 1/4 of the World’s population is Muslim. Isn’t one of Christianities tenants that you should treat others the same way as you would have them treat you? Would you like it if Muslims in Bishop started burning Bibles on the street corner? Isn’t lack of respect for one another the primary reason for war and conflict?

      3) Stop looking for excuses to write macho babble on blogs and try and educate yourself.

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      • Benett Kessler February 26, 2012 at 7:29 pm #

        I do not have this report confirmed, but did hear that several of the news networks
        reported that the American soldiers were cleaning out or closing down a library,
        and they decided to burn all of them. Sounds like we don’t have all the facts.
        Benett

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        • Ken Warner February 26, 2012 at 9:15 pm #

          …facts? We don’ need no stinkin’ facts!

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          • DisgruntledGovDrone February 27, 2012 at 10:59 am #

            Ken, you are right, all you post are opinions or propaganda.

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          • Rock of Ages February 28, 2012 at 9:57 pm #

            You mean if Keith Oberman doesn’t report them,…don’t you Ken? Talk about spin….(yes, I know that you were joking, but can’t you see your own hypocrisy here…now THAT’S a joke!)

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          • Rock of Ages February 28, 2012 at 10:01 pm #

            By the way…good job on these facts Bennett, our soldiers need this kind of media support sometimes, and to know that we love them….they are NOT bad guys…

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    • inyoindian February 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm #

      Just think we could have had sarah palin for vice president she is the biggest joke besides the whole republican party, I mean the whole congress is a joke to think they are there on there own beliefs and values is another joke. they have all compromised there beliefs for corporation money. When Kentucky repersentitve Rand Paul wanted to cut Native tribes funding for BIA and IHS, the president being behind Native tribes said “no way” so the fact our current president does affect people first hand in the valley by sticking up for native tribes is my deciding factor of why i will vote for him “again”. Ha Dislike that!!!!

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      • upthecreek February 27, 2012 at 5:44 pm #

        @inyoindian

        It doesn’t matter who you vote for. If you think the government (let alone the president) is looking out for best interest, Think again., The system has been broken for decades.

        Only now the sheeple are starting to figure it out.

        Your government is OUT OF CONTROL

        Good luck

        GGW

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        • inyoindian February 28, 2012 at 10:40 am #

          Your right who i vote dosent really matter, but when thier is a canidate that mentions native americans as supportors and shows his support through action, there could not be a more deciding factor for me. I understand that our government is out of control, they have a special set of rules for politicans (dont get caught). But for me not to vote is a vote for the other guy! And oh boy those other guys are out of touch from middle class struggles. What good are they really gonna do besides good for themselves.

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      • Rob February 28, 2012 at 9:54 am #

        InyoIndians with their hand out all the time are part of the problem. Time to join the mainstream and become just plain ol’ Americans.

        Now go pay your gas taxes

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        • inyoindian February 28, 2012 at 2:09 pm #

          @ Rob I fully agree with you. but dont pass judgement on me. I pay my taxes and I dont hold on to any of those grudges that are irrational to our time period. I am as proud to be part of this country as the next man.
          Now you go pay your taxs and like it!!

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          • Big AL February 28, 2012 at 9:30 pm #

            Amen inyoindian …. dangut Rob! where did that come from? You know people talk about the so called indian mentality, kind of what you’re saying, and there is some truth to that, but I am not pointing it out as a dig here!
            I think even inyoindian knows what i’m talking about. But I can apply that condition to a lot of people in any groups. Anyone who just doesn’t pull their stuff together and take responsibility for their own lives, mistakes, and control of their lives.
            I like inyoindian’s response to that …
            “I pay my taxes and I dont hold on to any of those grudges that are irrational to our time period. I am as proud to be part of this country as the next man.”

            We’re all Americans!

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          • Rob February 29, 2012 at 10:00 am #

            excellent response for sure. Don’t be a stranger InyoIndian you appear to be extremely level headed. We need more of that around here. I could stand to learn a few things from you.

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        • inyoindian February 28, 2012 at 2:37 pm #

          Its not the ones who recieve the handouts that are part of the problem its the law makers that think you can get something for nothing.

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  6. Ken Warner February 25, 2012 at 6:02 pm #

    Americans are the biggest threat to Americans.

    Do you know how many Americans have died in Iraq? 4484 (aprox.)

    Do you know how many people are murdered in the U.S. each year? Over 15,000.

    Do you know how many people die in traffic accidents each year? Over 30,000.

    Do you know how many people die from smoking each year? Over 500,000.

    So what do you want Obama to do about it? Bomb us?

    And let Iran have all the a-bombs they want. They can nuke it out with Pakistan and India and China and Israel and maybe Russia would get in there too. Bombing Iran because it might produce one nuclear weapon someday is a Tea Bag wet dream.

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    • kaat February 26, 2012 at 12:25 am #

      @ Ken: Most posts, including your own, show that there is a complete lack of understanding about Iran and their motives regarding the USA…Iran’s goals are religious ones, not political, which is hard for most Americans to grasp or even believe….Iran clearly shares it’s goals with us and the rest of the world regarding the US, but no one thinks they are serious…it’s a tragic mistake….but Americans tend to make a joke about everything (see your post above)….I wonder who will get the last laugh? … we end up looking foolish to the rest of the world…oh well, here’s to anther 4 years of the same old “let’s make friends with Iran” c#&p…………..they hate us but maybe they will instantly love us one day soon!….yeah, let’s “hope” that happens real fast!

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      • Big AL February 27, 2012 at 1:11 am #

        Well you’re right kaat, they do hate us, that is .. the religious leaders in the islamic world who are bent on carrying out the jihad.
        I don’t see every single muslim person feeling this way from what I have seen. Just as I don’t see Christianity in the same way.
        People like to point out how Christianity is responsible for so much bad in the world, NO it is not, people are the responsible ones for that, evil is the reason it happens.
        But the ones who are in power in the muslim culture are the ones who seem to have the hate that they breed amongst muslim people. And they have the control over the muslim culture with that hate they bring forth.
        There are muslims and infidels.
        The jihad is to rid the world of infidels. unfortunately, we are the infidels, even all muslims that do not follow jihad. There are plenty of muslims that do not follow jihad, but there are many who will not stand up to it.
        So do you tell these hateful people .. oh I’m so sorry we wronged you, here let me make it right so we can live in peace .. I don’t think so.
        They burn bibles in the same fashion, they burn the American flag .. in the same fashion, and they think that is perfectly acceptable, do they offer any apologies. Have you seen any, no I don’t think so.
        Yet we have to apologize for it when we do. I don’t think we owe an apology to the hate.
        So to your post Kaat, I wouls add as well, that it is just not the US, it is all of the world who is not muslim, but yeah, the US is a big target because of all of the crap big business has done around the world, just another reason why the hate is manifest so.

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    • STEVEN February 26, 2012 at 10:07 am #

      Typical reply.
      Tear down America and the people in it like the President does all the time.
      Sorry for this sorry for that.
      We Americans are evil and bad.
      I come from a military family and my uncle and cousin did not die on the battlefield in Vietnam and Iraq so that we can let all these Countries “Have it out”. America will always be at war with someone. I just wish it had nothing to do with fuel.
      I think in the back of everyone’s heads, they know whats coming down the pike over there in those regions. I have a brother in law that works for the border patrol and is stationed at some border out post in Kuwait/Iraq. “Protecting other Countries borders” He says there are things coming that will draw us into a war with Iran. I believe him! Now thats reality and no wet dreaming!

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      • Big AL February 27, 2012 at 1:17 am #

        We should not be sorry for who we are, you’re right Steven, the American people have a good heart. The greed of the world is the culprit for so much of the trouble in the world today, for all it has raped and pillaged.
        We the people always have to clean up after and pay for the R&P that big business does all over the world.

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  7. Wayne Deja February 25, 2012 at 7:47 pm #

    Benett…If Bin Laden had been killed during the Bush years in office,the Republicans….and FOX NEWS would have made him out to be the greatest President in the past 50 years…Just like they blamed Obama for not having gotten him sooner.And going to war with Iran because they have nuclear weapons?….We have nuclear weapons too…In the Bush years,other Countries feared us because of having a so-called President ready to push the button at the drop of a hat….They feared us not out of respect…they feared us because we had a crazy President and Vice-President..

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    • kaat February 26, 2012 at 12:41 am #

      …and Iran’s guy isn’t maybe a little “c@%&y”? Again, he/they are driven by religious beliefs, not political ones….it’s hard to understand…but understand the US must. Forget Rep or Dem’s, that isn’t the issue….focus on what Iran is actually saying….listen…they are being very, very clear…it’s not hard to miss the message and the message isn’t alike a nice hallmark friendship card….we need a president who can effectively respond to the real message….I don’t think our current one really “get’s it”….

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      • Wayne Deja February 27, 2012 at 11:07 am #

        kaat..My guess would be if Iran did something really stupid,and forced Obama’s hand to do something,it would be a quick hit….with big-time consequences for Iran,and not some long,drawn out 8 year war…like what Bush got us into with Iraq.

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    • upthecreek February 26, 2012 at 9:49 am #

      Live by the sword. Die by the sword

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  8. Ken Warner February 26, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

    First of all Steven (and other FoxNEWS dupes) you opened with a justified outrage at U.S. soldiers being killed in AFGHANISTAN because an offense to the Muslim religion. Then you gradually morphed your rants into “…we need to bomb Iran now…” because of some murky reasoning about religion and atomic bombs and Israel which I can’t really follow other than it sounds real similar to the arguments about imaginary WMD’s in Iraq that Saddam was going to use to attack us in less than an hour. Then you claim to know all about Iran’s motivations and determine that they are fundamentally religious and not political . And then you blame it all for $5.00 oil.

    You are so confused it’s hard to think of a logical retort. So here’s a bunch of facts that you will no doubt wave away with the same wisdom you have displayed so far.

    1) We import no oil from Iran. They sell to Europe and Asia. They are not responsible for $5.00 oil. Our own speculators are. Remember we had $180 a barrel oil and $5.00 gas in 2008 — look it up.

    http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm

    2) They have a population of about 78 million.

    3) Their Gross Domestic Product is between $400 billion and $800 billion — less than what we gave to our banks so they could maintain their bonuses to their executives.

    4) Their political motives are leading it to extend their sphere of influence through out the Mid-East and maybe in the long run, they will be able to lend some degree of stability to that region. Already they are the most influential political force in the South of Iraq and the West of Afghanistan. And you’ve already seen what happens to political stability when we bomb people into Democracy as in what has happened to the political stability of Iraq.

    5) They don’t have an atomic bomb or any way to deliver it even if they had one because they have no air force to speak of. And Israel can defend it self with it’s nuclear arsenal of somewhere between 100 and 200 atomic bombs and a capable air force..

    6) The real reason you and others who suck on FoxNEWS’ teat think Iran and previously Iraq was a threat is the effective propaganda that big oil put out to convince you of those views. And they created that propaganda war for you and other dupes because first Iraq and now Iran have created an oil bourse and both countries — first Iraq and now Iran — wanted to sell their oil for currencies other than the almighty U.S. Dollar — which is a cardinal sin.

    http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_oil_bourse

    But you already knew that right? Because you are so well informed that you think that a country that has less than 1/4 the population of the U.S. — a Gross Domestic Product of less than 1/28’th of ours — that has no military capable of anything more than local skirmishes — and the closest thing to a weapon of mass destruction Is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s bluster — you think we should bomb them now or forever live in fear.

    Maybe you are also clairvoyant — well read my mind….

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    • kaat February 27, 2012 at 12:34 am #

      @ Ken:
      “…because of some murky reasoning about religion and atomic bombs and Israel…. which I can’t really follow…”

      Sir, your quote is exactly the reasoning that Iran’s pres uses to justify taking out Israel first and then the US….

      You love facts and figures, that I can see, but Iran has clearly laid out their world goals for all to hear and they wish to see a world without that little country and the US… and still you refuse to take them seriously…and they are counting on you and the rest of Americans to “not get it”…religion isn’t about facts and figures Ken, it is often not “logical” to those on the outside….I don’t have any inside information, I am just listening to what is said by Iran at the UN, etc and in new releases coming from the other side of the world….I don’t trust ANY of the US’s major new providers as they are slanted this way and that….I try to go closer to the source for accurate news and I can think for myself. I suggest you stop listening to the US news too and use the internet to get yourself the real answers that you currently lack.

      Also, I am not saying bomb anyone….I want peace as much as anyone…but we have to get real about Iran’s world goals and have a pres that will stop trying to be BFF with a country that fundamentally hates us and all that we stand for.

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      • Benett Kessler February 27, 2012 at 10:35 am #

        In what reports do you believe the news is trying to be best friends with Iran?
        Benett Kessler

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        • kaat February 27, 2012 at 4:50 pm #

          not the news or media, just the current president and hillary.

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      • Ken Warner February 27, 2012 at 12:14 pm #

        Bush’s State of the Union Address 2002 (excerpt)
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/transcripts/sou012902.htm
        ————-

        North Korea is a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction, while starving its citizens.

        Iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror, while an unelected few repress the Iranian people’s hope for freedom.

        Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax and nerve gas and nuclear weapons for over a decade.

        This is a regime that has already used poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens, leaving the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children. This is a regime that agreed to international inspections then kicked out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world.

        States like these, and their terrorist allies, constitute an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world. By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. They could provide these arms to terrorists, giving them the means to match their hatred. They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail the United States. In any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic.
        ————-

        So it’s really not Iran — it’s just an “…unelected few…” who don’t like us.

        But how do you think those unelected few should view us? As friends? This is all political theater on both sides. And what do you know of Iran’s real goals? Not the insane crap that Ahmadinejad spouts at the UN. Everybody knows he’s just a crazy tool of the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

        Iran cannot do the things you suggest for obvious reasons. The foremost reason being they just aren’t physically capable of producing or delivering a nuclear weapon. Furthermore, the NATO nations are it’s primary customers for it’s oil. It has to sell oil or it’s economy crashes. Do you think it will bomb the U.S. (a NATO member) or anybody for any reason? What do you think NATO would do in that case?

        But I invite you to “…get real about Iran’s goals…” List them out for us and tell us how they are going to achieve those goals.

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  9. STEVEN February 26, 2012 at 5:03 pm #

    Ken, you are the copy paste master on this site.
    I disagree with your lame posts ALL of the time!
    You really annoy me.
    Keep up the good work.
    I love know it Al’s that know really know nothing.
    One word!
    OPEC What now, copy paste?
    And actually FOX news tells it like it is.
    Their viewing audience is more than weakling MSNBC and CNN combined.
    It’s nice to know that there are actually so many itelegent Americans out there.
    Have fun in liberal make believe land.
    And please dont dig up some made up stats on ratings by like minded people of your intellect, because it will be a bunch of made up bull&%$#!.

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    • Benett Kessler February 26, 2012 at 7:25 pm #

      Steve,

      Chill out. And, please, all else included, find another way to communicate
      besides insults. No wonder the world has conflicts.
      Benett

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      • Tourbillon February 26, 2012 at 8:05 pm #

        While you are lecturing Steve (others you fastidiously avoid naming) about “insults” perhaps you might turn your delicate sense of new-found decorum on other comments you have chosen, in your editorial discretion, to post in this thread:

        “FoxNEWS dupes”

        “You all have seen too many John Wayne movies.”

        “Stop looking for excuses to write macho babble on blogs and try and educate yourself.”

        “Bombing Iran because it might produce one nuclear weapon someday is a Tea Bag wet dream.”

        “You are so confused it’s hard to think of a logical retort.”

        “The real reason you and others who suck on FoxNEWS’ teat.”

        “Maybe you are also clairvoyant — well read my mind….”

        You chose to post these gratuitous insults. None were made by Steve, but he is the only one you chose to personally castigate.

        Unlike the opinionated blog you cloak as a news site, there is no opinion in this comment, just the facts of what people said, what you chose to post, and who you chose to call out by name.

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        • Benett Kessler February 27, 2012 at 10:30 am #

          Tourbilion,

          You missed the fact that I said “all else included” when I asked for a stop to insults.
          That includes you. Although, as you see, I have posted your comment. Feel free to point
          out any inaccuracies in our news stories so we can address them. There is a way to comment
          on issues without insults, name calling and bullying. Why go to the lowest common denominator
          in our communications?
          Benett Kessler

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    • Trouble February 26, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

      I like how Ken backs up his statements . I hope he keeps it up. I really enjoy seeing the right wingers getting annoyed.

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      • kaat February 27, 2012 at 5:02 pm #

        just b/c someone disagrees with you or ken or anyone else does not make them a ”right-winger”….it just makes them someone who has a different idea than you or ken or anyone else….quit putting people in a political box!

        since when aren’t people allow to disagree…?????? oh, yeah that’s right, since this pres. entered the white house and made anyone with an idea different than him a “silly” right-winger – could he be the original name caller?

        once upon a time people in this country could discuss things and try to see an issue from all sides….no more….like “Trouble” demonstrates, when some one (right or left) disagrees with the current administration’s politics (or Ken’s posts) they are immediately put in the “crazy right winger” box and their opinion is thrown out….yup, we are on the elementary school playground all over again!

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        • Big AL February 27, 2012 at 9:32 pm #

          Agreed kaat

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        • Trouble February 28, 2012 at 10:01 pm #

          Kaat- you are correct in many ways, but my point was, I don’t like seeing those” annoy a liberal stickers” either.

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  10. Joe Biden February 26, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

    Please Benett,
    Your comment to Steve needs to be addressed to Ken Warner as well. Lots os his comments are inflammatory and insulting. People like him create a lot conflict also.

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    • Benett Kessler February 27, 2012 at 10:33 am #

      Once again, I said, “all else included” in regard to a halt to insults.
      BK

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      • Big AL February 27, 2012 at 9:39 pm #

        OK I have to agree with Benett on this one .. she did say so and so …. and all others, she was referring to more than one person, and there is more than a couple here that like to sling the crap around so I think some should chill out on it.

        This isn’t any butt kissing either .. just saying it how I see it.

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    • STEVEN February 27, 2012 at 12:31 pm #

      Thanks Joe Biden and Tourbilion, I thought I was alone here. I guess my piercing words have always attracted the most attention from people with opposite and similar views.
      I will once again keep it as civil as I can. After all, It is Bennetts site, and I have to remember to respect her wishes. But I still dont agree with Ken or Bennett! That is not an insult, it is an opinion.

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      • Benett Kessler February 27, 2012 at 2:13 pm #

        Thanks, Steve. I appreciate the tone of your disagreement.
        BK

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  11. Trouble February 26, 2012 at 9:47 pm #

    I’d like to see a report on how much the gas stations really pay for their fuel.

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    • DisgruntledGovDrone February 27, 2012 at 10:54 am #

      Trouble,
      It doesn’t matter what the gas stations pay for their fuel, what matters is what the customer will pay. Owning a gas station is not a government run charity subject to price control. Gas has been $10/gallon in Europe for years.

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      • Trouble February 27, 2012 at 1:49 pm #

        Disgruntled- just to be far, I do agree with your statement that gas stations are not a charity. I just think putting pressure on them to keep the prices lower is always a good idea. As a consumer i think shopping around is a good idea. Knowing what they pay for it may not really help. I stand corrected.

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    • Big AL February 27, 2012 at 9:41 pm #

      You probably would be surprised Trouble, to see where the profit goes and how much?

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  12. Jeremiah February 27, 2012 at 11:24 am #

    It is silly to me see the president get the blame for gas prices. we are dealing with a natural resource that we take for granted. if anything is to blame, blame all the inventions that make our lives more convienent that take gasoline to make it possible. And to think that drilling is the answer is a step backwords. what about the rising scale of consumers and our kids need for this natural resource to make there lives the way ours is. our way of life is not sustainable and is up to us to prove to our kids and our kids kids that we will make the appropriate sacrifice to insure that they will have the same opportunitys and same beautiful earth that we all share. It is time!

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  13. Ken Warner February 27, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    All this bluster about who has “balls” and threatening people with unspeakable violence and then when I point out the arrogant stupidity of such bluster it’s all, “…Mommy, Mommy he called me a bad name and made me sad…”

    Pathetic!

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  14. Trouble February 27, 2012 at 1:22 pm #

    Disgruntled- It matters to me. I pull into the station with the best price. Always will.

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  15. inyoindian February 27, 2012 at 2:53 pm #

    Sure dislike the fact that Gasoline is a Natural Resource and our way of living is non sustainable, to think that it isnt urgent for us to make a diference on our dependence on oil is my opinion “ignorance”, think about generations after us. Or just keep living in your selfish ways, if your “ok”, everything else must be “ok”. For all the earth has givin us We should at least give a lil Care back!

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  16. enoughalready February 27, 2012 at 5:41 pm #

    I came up with the user name “enoughalready” based on many of the posters and silly articles on this site that seem to just go on and on and on.
    All that blabber in the middle of this posting is wacky. Name calling, finger pointing etc…enough already! Benett, you managed to hi-jack your other article/comments and fly with all the Chicken Littles. (the sky is not falling….gas prices are soaring!)
    Finally somebody brought the dialog back to gas prices. Thats what this is about. Right?
    What if you people had taken that time to email your President, Congress, Senate or Big Oil companies instead of all that bickering. It surely would have been more constructive and productive. Stop wasting your time with each other and point your energy towards a solution.

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    • Big AL February 27, 2012 at 9:46 pm #

      amen enough

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    • upthecreek February 27, 2012 at 11:06 pm #

      @enoughalready

      Since when does Congress or the President LISTEN to “We the people”.,
      Mail, Call or email They will not listen to their Sheeple.

      I for one have “Had Enough” Long long ago. Do you remember (Not long ago) when 80% of the people said NO to the bailouts.
      Guess what ..They voted for it anyways. We do not have a voice anymore.
      The time is now to act before one day you wake up in a distant land.

      GGW

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  17. enoughalready February 29, 2012 at 9:01 am #

    Okay. You’re right. We no longer have a voice in this country. Lets just put our heads down and hand over the money, “thank you sir, may I have another”. I have a feeling that “Upthe creek” never planned on using a paddle. The journey was just going to be too tough. So there you go floating down stream.

    Well I say BS.
    We better do something! Anything! Call, write, boycott, protest, yell, kick and scream! Do something! Its the Speculators that are jacking the prices. Thats it. They need to be stopped. They are only human. (greedy humans). WE need to do something.
    I will buy you a paddle “Upthecreek” and show you how to use. Only If you promise to use it.

    Now enough already I have more e-mails to write……you too…..get started!

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    • Benett Kessler February 29, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

      On that note, some have suggested that only those who USE oil should be able to buy it on the commodities market.
      The speculators are the problem. Apparently some legislators have thought of introducing legislation that would
      regulate the commodities market and only allow oil users to purchase.
      Benett Kessler

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      • Ken Warner February 29, 2012 at 1:09 pm #

        Nice idea. But in my imagination, I can see shadow companies funded by OPEC nations being the speculators who’s main purpose is not to make money but to drive up the price of oil for the benefit of OPEC nations. It’s not a big leap of imagination.

        In fact, I will include any oil producing country and/or company who sells oil in dollar denominations in my speculation. I mean can you imagine counties like Russia or Iran or Venezuela having staunchly rigorous business integrity?

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      • Ken Warner February 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm #

        …and the producers are vertically integrated companies who are also the users (refiners) who sell the end products at their gas stations and benefit from high gas prices. And who really knows how and where petro-dollars go? Do you think somebody somewhere actually pays real money for a barrel of oil that costs (in 2008) $180 and today costs $110? For example, Saudi Arabia owns and runs Aramco.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Aramco

        In addition, Saudi Arabia is one of the largest purchaser of U.S. arms (not the only one). And they use petro-dollars to do so. So when you drive into a gas station and pay high prices for gasoline, you are helping our defense industry sell arms overseas by funding the countries that buy them.

        http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704621204575488361149625050.html

        Nice little loop-de-loop on money all courtesy of the U.S. Consumer.

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    • Big AL February 29, 2012 at 6:14 pm #

      Good post

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