Accidental shooting sends two to Renown

mcsostation(Press Release – MCSO)   On the afternoon of Tuesday, June 25th, 2013, at approximately 4:30pm, Mono County Sheriff’s Dispatch received a 911 call for medical aid of a possible accidental shooting at the gun range in Bridgeport.

Mono County Sheriff’s Deputies, Mono County Paramedics, and Bridgeport Fire Department were dispatched to the scene. Upon arrival, it was determined that a father, age 57, and son, age 30, both out of county residents, were shooting at the range and had an accidental discharge of a rifle (.223). The bullet from the rifle struck victim one in his right leg. The bullet penetrated both legs and exited through the left foot. Victim two, who was standing next to victim one, sustained shrapnel injuries. Careflight was requested for both the victims. Antelope Valley Fire Department was put on standby at the Walker Ball Field for one of the two incoming Careflight’s. Victim one was flown from Bridgeport to Renown Medical Center in Reno for treatment of the gunshot wound and shrapnel injuries. Victim two was transported by Mono County Paramedics to the Walker Ball Field and then flown to Renown Medical Center in Reno for treatment of shrapnel injuries.

With unfortunate and accidental incidents such as this, it’s very important to remember basic firearm safety tips to ensure your own safety and the safety of those around you. Always treat all guns as if they are loaded, even if you think they are unloaded. Always keep the gun pointed in the safest possible direction. A “safe direction” is one where an accidental discharge of the gun will not cause any injury or damage. Always keep your finger off the trigger and outside the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot. Know your target, its surroundings and beyond. Be aware of all the people around you before you shoot. Know how to properly operate your gun. Remember, it is your personal responsibility to ensure your weapon is secure and safe. Use firearm safety devices on the gun, such as a trigger lock or cable lock. For more gun safety tips, please visit the California Department of Justice Firearms Bureau website at

Written and prepared by: Jennifer Hansen, Public Information Officer



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68 Responses to Accidental shooting sends two to Renown

  1. Mark June 26, 2013 at 2:07 pm #

    Total FAIL

    They are lucky one of them wasn’t killed.

    .223 Assult Rifle?

    • Wayne Deja June 26, 2013 at 4:00 pm #

      Mark….And even LUCKIER some innocent person wasn’t shot and/or killed because of their negligence.We get all this hoop-la about President Obama “trying to take ” guns away….maybe what they should do is DEFINATALLY take all guns out of the hands of irresponsible gun owners.

      • Tom O. June 27, 2013 at 6:57 am #

        Lets start by taking them away from criminals.

        • J-Frog June 27, 2013 at 12:48 pm #

          I say let’s start by getting money out of politics and overturn citizens united and put a end to corporate person hood, that way we don’t have hidden agendas and big money feeding the american public a bunch of BS/Propaganda, that way we can at least have the peoples best interest on the table rather then Big Money’s best interest over the peoples, How’s it go again “if your not at the table, Your probably on the menu!”

          Actually a little update, TEXAS, CALIFORNIA and NEW YORK all have all submitted a bill to call for a Article V convention, That’s 25% of the population folks! The wolf’s are coming! Jump on board with the pack, the more the merrier. If you want more info I would be happy to give it to you, but clicking on the link should explain a lot.

          I promise you this is the effort that is gonna make the difference, thanks to the founding fathers they put two ways to have a constitutional amendment, One is through congress, the other is if 3/4 of the states call for a Article V convention, congress can’t even pass the disclose act (which only tells us where the money is coming from), they couldn’t even pass that among themselves (because they are bought, big money doesn’t want to be called out because there hidden agendas would become clear). So it’s the Article V convention that is the ticket, Got to give the founding fathers of this nation credit for that one, check it out look up a article V convention as a way to get a constitutional amendment through…
          mark my words it’s gonna be the ticket to get the Republic/Democracy back to the people….

          • Capitalism 101 June 27, 2013 at 4:08 pm #

            There are more people on food stamps in America than any time in our history. The U.S. has also seen an increase in poverty levels, which the Census Bureau puts at 15.9% of the total population, or close to 50 million citizens. The Census Bureau puts close to 50 million Americans, or 15.9% of the total population, at or below the poverty level.
            And, (as during the Great Depression I) there are also more millionaires than ever before who are able to swoop down with their superior buying power and find opportunities to make them richer still.
            And now we have entire groups of Americans who are being duped into believing that the wealthiest amongst us should not be paying any taxes whatsoever (the idiotic “trickle-down effect”).

  2. Big Rick OBrien June 26, 2013 at 2:09 pm #

    There’s no such thing as an accidental discharge….

    • BobK June 26, 2013 at 2:40 pm #

      Please explain that comment, thanks

    • Friends of Cash June 26, 2013 at 3:33 pm #

      uhhh… yes there is actually. They’re usually called a “negligent” or “unintentional discharge.” Dropping a firearm can also cause an accidental discharge.

      Either way, “Big Rick,” I’m sure it was an “accident.”

  3. J-Frog June 26, 2013 at 3:15 pm #

    Mark & Rick
    What are both of you talking about?
    The safest and most careful people can have accident, Like that gun appreciation day they (gun enthusiasts) had a few months ago there was three accidental discharges and one was at the safety check point, yes that’s right, at the safety check point!
    There’s no such thing as accidental discharge Rick? So the gun went of by itself? so then guns do kill people!

  4. Trouble June 26, 2013 at 3:16 pm #

    Usually, the people who go to the gun ranges are very careful with gun safety. They broke rule number one, don’t point a gun at any one .

  5. BobK June 26, 2013 at 4:12 pm #

    Rick: please explain your reasoning explaining your comment

    • Big Rick OBrien June 27, 2013 at 2:17 am #

      I knew this was comin’…99.9% of the time, a firearm will NOT discharge unless there’s a FINGER on the trigger, meaning, that it is the fault of an irresponsible person handling said firearm. An older, single action revolver might fire if dropped or if the hammer is hit, if the firing pin is resting on a live round, but modern guns have built in safeties that keep this from happening. The ONLY scenario that I can think of that would allow a modern weapon (a .223 rifle) to fire WITHOUT a finger on the trigger is that it got caught (the trigger) on something, like a nail sticking up on the shooting bench, and that would STILL be negligent handling of a gun. Any time you pick up a firearm, you take on a HUGE responsibility. If it turns out that this firearm was defective in some way and fired all on it’s own, WITHOUT someone’s finger ON THE TRIGGER, I’LL EAT MY WORDS.

      • Big AL June 28, 2013 at 10:27 pm #

        Rick, I’m not diss’n ya bro .. just saying … accidental is not intentional two different animals. If it’s not intentional, it’s an accident. Even your shooting of the hotel bed was an accident, due to your negligence in failing to clear the chamber, and look to see if it was before you pulled that trigger.

        I thought that pistol was chamber was spent too … when I eased the hammer down and it slipped under my thumb. The person who shot the other person in the above accident wasn’t thinking when they were holding the rifle in an unsafe direction.

  6. ferdinand lopez June 26, 2013 at 5:14 pm #

    thats what she said

  7. Big AL June 26, 2013 at 5:46 pm #

    Stuff happens … it’s why you need to be diligent in securing weapons and being safe! .223 rounds are not necessarily assault weapon rounds, what does that have to do with it? There are varmint rifles out there that are chambered in 223.

    They’re lucky they were close to emergency help, Victim 1 could easily have bled out before they got somewhere for help, and victim 2 could have been incapacitated by the shrapnel wounds, enough to prevent him transporting them both to help. Safety!

    • Big Rick OBrien June 27, 2013 at 2:35 am #

      I couldn’t agree more, Al. STUFF HAPPENS… I’m sure you saw your share of negligent handling of guns during your career. BUT, it’s usually a case of mis-handling, or the person is not being familiar with the gun. I once killed the bed in my hotel room in Hawthorne, “by accident”…I pulled the magazine out of a .380, and pulled the slide to the rear 3 times to remove the round that might have been in the chamber, and when nothing came out, I pointed it at the bed & pulled the trigger, BOOM! THIS was not an ACCIDENT! I should have double- checked the chamber by looking to make positive that is was empty, when it wasn’t. THAT, scared the hell out of me. Even though the ejector malfunctioned, it was still my responsibility, MY fault.
      I reckon I should have said “99.9% of the time, there’s no such thing as an accidental discharge

    • Guns and games June 27, 2013 at 5:26 am #

      Neocons/Tea Party folk/et. al love their guns.
      Arming themselves with AK-47s is part of their M.O. when the time comes to overthrow the government. (The “liberal” government).
      Dangerous games these fools are playing.

      • Mr. NRA June 27, 2013 at 9:10 am #

        Please tell me your not a gun owner…

      • Machine Gunner June 27, 2013 at 10:28 am #

        Keyboard warriors and internet tough guys love to troll all day on blogging sites – it’s their M.O. Unfortunately, when the time comes for them to “put up or shut up…” they will most likely run and hide..

        Dangerous games these fools are playing! I agree!

        • One term and your out June 27, 2013 at 2:08 pm #

          Machine Gunner sounds like he speaks from experience:
          “Keyboard warriors and internet tough guys love to troll all day on blogging sites – it’s their M.O”

          Can you say “hypocrite” Machine Gunner.

          (boisterous laughter)

          • Wayne Deja June 27, 2013 at 5:41 pm #

            ….Got to agree with machine gunner on this one….Usually,the ones opening their mouths about gun rights and President Obama trying to take them all away,in most cases,from what I’ve seen,those types don’t even own a gun,and if they do,rarely take it out,if at all…A good example is the knuckle-head Sarah Palin,when she had the short-lived “reality show”,you could tell the only time she ever had a gun in her hands was when she had a camera on her pretty face…could tell just by the way she held the weapon…but one of the loudest to talk about 2nd Amendment rights ?….Sarah”momma grizzly” Palin….usually,the ones that run their mouths the most ARE the ones that run and hide.

      • Tourbillon June 27, 2013 at 12:37 pm #

        Yes but go easy on those “fools”. Rush comes over to their houses at night and whispers in their ear to make them do it.

        • Neocons and brainwashing June 27, 2013 at 2:15 pm #

          Since you brought up the name, that talk-radio neocon king of the airways doesn’t have to come over to anybody’s house to whisper in their ears.

          With over 40 million “Down with government!” “Death to Liberals!” “Leave my AK-47 alone!” maniacs religiously tuning in to hear this bloated bigot 3 straight hours a day, 5 days a week, and reruns on weekends – this is how the “people-hater adored by people-haters” (source: Buckskinned attorney and freedom fighter – Gerry Spence) does the ear-whispering.

          And, yes. I know. I know. Nobody ever listens to talk-radio

          (uncontrollable laughter)

          • Tourbillon June 28, 2013 at 10:52 am #

            You don’t have to tell us you are experiencing “boisterous laughter” and “uncontrollable laughter” with every post my friend. We are familiar with the symptoms of psychosis. Just try to curtail the hysteria in public, it scares the kids and the horses.

        • Big AL June 27, 2013 at 5:21 pm #

          LOL Tourbillon .. he whispers the same stuff in Dr Facts ears.

          • Watch that anger, please June 28, 2013 at 5:44 am #

            Thanks for at least being honest for once, Big Al, in admitting you know how the bloated bigot of the airwaves functions.

          • Tourbillon's code June 28, 2013 at 1:34 pm #

            re: Tourbillon’s post:
            “You don’t have to tell us you are experiencing “boisterous laughter” and “uncontrollable laughter” with every post my friend. We are familiar with the symptoms of psychosis”

            “Us” Tourbillon?

            Are you familiar with the symptoms of schizophrenia?

            (mild guffaws).

            You really ought to find other hobbies than talk-radio, my friend.

          • Benett Kessler June 28, 2013 at 2:30 pm #

            Okay. Enough already.
            Benett Kessler

          • Big AL June 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm #

            I’m always honest in my comments, I can only speak for my honesty in how I see things. And it isn’t any anger … just saying … I can speak for myself in that as well. Happy Happy Happy

          • Tourbillon June 28, 2013 at 4:32 pm #

            Another inane and witless post from the Man of Multiple Personalities.

            (toilet flushing)

  8. Tom O. June 26, 2013 at 5:58 pm #

    Mark, that’s a hunting round for a lot of people. Just because it a powerful caliber or the gun looks scary doesn’t mean that it an ‘assult’ rifle….please define what an ‘assult rifle is.

    • Big Rick OBrien June 27, 2013 at 2:40 am #

      It’s been my experience that anyone that uses the term “assault rifle”, are people that don’t believe in the 2nd ammendment. just sayin’.

      • Big AL June 27, 2013 at 5:51 pm #

        Well in all fairness .. in retrospect, Rick, I think the comment might have been aimed (no pun intended) at pointing out absurdity of how people will try to jump on this story and try to decry gun rights.

        I hear ya, I get what you’re saying about gun accidents, but I have to say they are accidents, they are mistakes, like what you just shared. The reason we stress safety is because of mistakes, or accidents.

        It’s also not to say, that in the incident of this shooting at the gun range was anything other than an accident. The persons or person in this incident could have been acting safely, but obviously they let their guard down, obviously, as the gun was pointed in an unsafe direction when it discharged.

        If we didn’t have accidents, we would not need to be diligent in handling arms safely. I shot the tail light out of the back of a truck years ago, de-cocking a revolver, thumb slipped off the hammer, it discharged, killed the crap out of the tail light. I learned to correctly de-cock a pistol, not John Wayne it.

        Remember, accidental is not intentional, therefore, it is accidental.

      • Ken Warner June 29, 2013 at 7:41 am #

        You just used the term assault rifle. So you don’t believe in the Second Amendment?

        And no part of the Constitution requires belief. It is not a religious document written by a prophet that needs belief or faith to validate it. The Constitution is the law of the land whether you believe in it or not isn’t it?

        One doesn’t need to believe in the Constitution but one does need to abide by it.

        • Wayne Deja June 29, 2013 at 3:47 pm #

          Ken,no disrespect,but the Constitution was written and finalized,I believe in 1787,..almost 230 years ago…long before assault rifles and high-capacity clips were around,and getting into the wrong hands…and long before the monthly wackos go into schools,theaters,fast-food restaurants,and other crowded places to use those weapons on innocent people.Weapons they were easily able to purchase,either legally or illegally…or easily stolen or taken from irresponsible parents or family members…

          • Ken Warner June 29, 2013 at 4:50 pm #

            Wayne, no offense taken. I think the same. The Constitution is way out of date and should be passed through another Constitutional Congress for revision to bring it into the 21’st Century.

            But the Courts and the Legislature keep resisting any change — with the encouragement ($$$) of our shadow government — the lobbyists. And we can’t just pick and choose which parts of the Constitution we “Believe” in.

            If it was up to me, I’d make anything bigger than a short barrel 6 shot revolver or limited capacity shotgun unavailable to anybody who has not gone through a stringent background check and long waiting period. And even those measures might not be enough. That’s what I believe.

          • A simple question June 29, 2013 at 6:43 pm #

            Why would anyone think they must absolutely own a machine gun?

          • A simple answer June 29, 2013 at 7:52 pm #

            Im still trying to find someone that owns a ‘machine gun’.LEGALLY.It just doesnt happen.Is this in the same as “assault weapon”?

          • J Harris June 30, 2013 at 11:00 am #

            Wayne, no disrespect, but in 1787 the US Constitution was written shortly after a small group of people had taken more abuse than they could stomach from a Monarchy with a penchant for oppressing weaker people, and extracting anything of value. This oppression included most of the things that are found in the Bill of Rights (ratified Sept, 1791). If you truly believe the second amendment must go, you should also consider the ones that are soon to follow suit, i.e. 1, and 3-10. More to your point, an assault rifle is sort of a blanket term. It used to specify a Military Grade weapon, but has sort of been expanded to include anything scary looking. In colonial times, everyone had a reasonable facsimile of a military weapon, i.e. a rifle, or musket. As far as weirdos shooting places up, perhaps what we should really consider dealing with is the mental health problem in this country. In the absence of a gun, these people would likely have found some other means of such destruction, for example the Boston Marathon, or Oklahoma City. Despite those tragedies, I don’t think it’s prudent to ban Pressure Cookers or U-Haul trucks.

  9. Island of lost boys June 27, 2013 at 9:25 am #

    … And it’s been my experience that anyone that insists they must own a machine that spits out umpteen rounds of bullets per minute and can even launch grenades from that machine, has been watching way too many Rambo movies and are pretending to be something or someone they are clearly not.

    Time to grow up, boys.

    • Mark June 27, 2013 at 1:22 pm #

      How’d you know I have a 50 cal with a grenade launcher. It will also shoot signal flares which is pretty cool and we’re camping out in the desert.

      • You know the type - you know the individual June 27, 2013 at 2:24 pm #

        Golly gee! Oh boy! Oh boy!
        Owning a machine gun and pretending I’m a freedom-fighter keeping them pesky liberals in their place is more fun than sparklers and M-80s any day!
        Is this a great country – or what?!!!

        • Big AL June 27, 2013 at 5:52 pm #

          You’re so messed up Dr Facts.

          • Insults v facts June 28, 2013 at 5:29 am #

            And your well thought out, well-researched, and open-minded contribution to this subject, Big, Al is …?

          • The pot calling the kettle June 28, 2013 at 11:49 am #

            Now, THAT is funny!
            A person who refers to themselves as “Big” calling another person “messed up.”

            You are too much, Big.

          • Big AL June 28, 2013 at 4:09 pm #

            LOL brother …. where was I closed minded?

      • J-Frog June 27, 2013 at 3:25 pm #

        But you can’t play “Combat Action Figure” everyday for the ammo is so expensive nowadays. Cool gun though, I’m all for them being in the right hands, just not for carrying the NRA arguments. To each’s own, I get my rocks off with my Bear Archery Bows.

    • Tom O. June 27, 2013 at 4:24 pm #

      Sorry Island Boy, Grenade launchers are ILLEGAL as is a fully automatic machine gun. Didnt your mom ever tell you not to judge things you dont know about?Do a little homework please.

      • Lunatics with machine guns June 27, 2013 at 4:35 pm #

        Here’s the deal Tom O and other God Bless America/machine-gun lovers:
        It’s not the machine guns that frighten me – it’s the crazy people who insist on owning machine guns that frighten me.

        • Tom O. June 27, 2013 at 9:12 pm #

          tell me one person who owns a ‘machine gun’, because it is illegal to own a fully automatic weapon.

          • Big AL June 28, 2013 at 4:46 pm #

            People do own “machine guns” fully automatic weapons … Whether or not it is illegal or not, some do have them.

            Not everyone who owns one is crazy, I do not have one, I don’t need one, I don’t really want one, but someone else might.

            I can do just as good with a semi automatic weapon if needed. Bullets last longer with semi autos.

            If needed, I don’t need it, but I like to have an semi auto, it doesn’t make me crazy. It doesn’t make me a killer, or a psychopath. Why is it some people feel that is the case, just because one likes fire arms and shooting sports?

            And you’re right Dr. … partially as I see it. Your comment, you fear crazy people who own them, well yes I would be nervous of that too … But …

            Your comment implies everyone who owns one or wants to own one is crazy. That’s not right. As I said earlier in another post, you’re not right .. well there is truth in that statement.

            It’s not right of you to judge every single person in the same light with that statement. Not everyone is crazy in the group you are referring to. Yes some are, I can guarantee that, but a lot of people are not crazy in that group.

            The way I see it, it is kind of a paradox. We don’t want the crazies to have them, yet we want to be able to have one if we are responsible about it, as with anything.

            We want to enact laws to help stop violence, but then we deny some, who are responsible citizens from freedom of choice. I know some just see it as no choice, it is just the way it is to keep us safe. Yes I can totally see that argument. But how is it fair? It isn’t, it is just the way it is.

            It keeps us safe right? It’s illegal to own a fully automatic weapon. Only the good guys can have them, the people in uniform, army, police, security. Wrong!

            It’s not supposed to happen, but you know bad people get them too. We made it illegal to own them and or possess them, and crazy people get them, just as easily.

            there is no way to stop it, guns and anything dangerous will get into the wrong hands through greed. Money talks and BS walks.

            All of these so called gun laws that people want to push on us will not serve one bit of good, just as we see with other similar laws. We have passed gun control laws over the years, and we still experience tragedies.

            Your comment, about not fearing guns, is 90% true, you should have an honest fear of them always, if you don’t bad joojoo happens. Alone, they are not to be feared, but as soon as they are handled, the potential is there for stuff to happen.

            The potential .. is there

            It depend on the individual whether or not it is bad. The biggest thing I advocate besides fire arms safety is .. changing our world.

            We need to change how we are, our society is going down the toilet, to the point where no values will exist, values are being taught less and less, and “me” is being taught in paramount!

            Dr. I see you say .. we need to be more tolerant, you go on about equality, I think you believe that, but you get so damn hung up on some things … it destroys your message. And you seem to think everyone here and elsewhere are against what you say, how can anyone get the message with so much poison.

      • No cause for sorrow Tommy Boy June 27, 2013 at 5:31 pm #

        You sound confused, Tommy O. Machine guns, assault rifles, or whatever label you want to give these “toys” causes no sorrow at all in the difficulty to purchase them.
        But then again, I’ve moved way beyond playing fantasy gun games as I once did when I was 8 years old.
        But there are crazy people who at this very moment have access to them – and that does cause some degree of sorrow and legitimate concern

        • Tom O. June 27, 2013 at 9:17 pm #

          Thanks for the underhanded insult.Is a Hitler reference next? Define an assault weapon, once again,fully automatic weapons are against the law…how about we go after the folks that own all them illegal guns you are so afraid of. Your post is nothing original.

          • What's in a word June 28, 2013 at 1:40 pm #

            Tell ya what Tom O. –
            Define the word “liberal” for me, then I’ll take a stab at “assault weapon” for ya.
            Also try turning off the talk radio and tune in to PBS for a spell.

          • Big AL June 28, 2013 at 4:49 pm #

            Dr. I don’t get it .. why did the “L” word come into play? what does that do to help?

          • Tom O. June 29, 2013 at 7:54 pm #

            PBS is still on? And people listen to it? Wow.

          • Different Strokes June 30, 2013 at 6:34 am #

            To each his own. Some want to learn different things and find them on the Public Broadcasting Service – others get everything they need from a bloated bigots on talk-radio programs.

            And I see Tom O did not try to define the word “liberal.”

          • Benett Kessler June 30, 2013 at 7:38 am #

            Perhaps because definitions separate us further. Give it a rest. Many of us know Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck perform their radio and tv shows for the enormous money and maybe they believed some of their blather. Who knows. Beck makes $90 million a year. Don’t know about RL nor do I care. Let’s hear who you find a helpful source of information.
            Benett Kessler

        • Big AL June 28, 2013 at 4:48 pm #

          Yes You’re right there! Some crazy people out there, and they seem to be multiplying rapidly.

          • Correct me if I'm wrong June 30, 2013 at 1:27 pm #

            While growing up, it seemed that every now and then during election time, you would hear something or other about economics or politics. Today, it seems that is ALL we are hearing.

            It would appear that the country just may be divided into two distinct groups –
            One group says: “Wow! I never in my lifetime would have ever believed that I’d see a black man in the White House. How cool is that?!”
            Another group says: “Oh, crap! I see the liberals got a black guy into the White House. There goes the F-ing neighborhood! “America is doomed!”

      • Mark June 30, 2013 at 6:43 am #

        Speeding, drinking and driving, and robbing banks is also illegal but people still do it.

        Felon’s can’t own guns but they still have them.

        Don’t think for a minute people don’t own fully automatic weapons with 200 rounds clips that are also illegal.

        • Wayne Deja June 30, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

          Mark….All you mentioned there is indeed illegal to do…but that don’t mean society,or the governing laws in the Country should make it easier for those that choose to do it,or want to maybe get away with doing it.

  10. BobK June 27, 2013 at 10:57 am #

    So Rick; You purposely shot the bed? It wasn’t an accident? I get what you are saying about negligence, but, “There is no such thing as an accidental shooting” baffles me. By that reasoning, there is no such thing as a vehicle accident unless there was mechanical failure, right? BobK.

    • Desert Tortoise June 29, 2013 at 12:43 am #

      If you accept the reasoning used by the Naval Safety Center there really are no “accidents”. Mishaps all have understandable causes and preventions. I nearly every case a mishap does not occur due to one thing going wrong. There are a chain of events leading up to a mishap, usually some combination of poor training and poor adherence to well worn procedures, that lead to the mishap. That is why aviation stresses adherence to procedures and the use of checklists to make sure steps are not over looked.

      In the case of the gun discharge into a bed, inadequate training and practice led to sloppy technique that created the preconditions for a mishap. All are preventable. We used to say in the Navy that there are no new mishaps, just new victims.

  11. Big Rick OBrien June 28, 2013 at 12:38 am #

    If I had VISUALLY checked the chamber like I should have, that bed would be alive today, but I didn’t…I was negligent. Maybe I should have said 99.9 % of accidental shootings are avoidable, preventable, and unintentional. OKIE DOKIE ?

    • Big AL June 28, 2013 at 4:50 pm #

      hehe Right on Rick

  12. BobK June 28, 2013 at 3:43 pm #

    Thanks, I fully agree.

  13. ferdinand lopez June 29, 2013 at 9:09 am #

    that will never make it


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