Letter to the editor: Real reporters

newsDear Editor:

There is a style of journalism today whose traits are sensational, scandal-seeking, and agenda-driven. An analogy can be drawn between layering a story with cheap shots before moving on to the next flavor of the month, and an inner city gang that drives by and sprays a target with gunfire and then moves on to the next target. Under the guise of “public service,” this type of drive-by journalism uses callous opinionated editorializing instead of guns. It cavorts into groups of people and individuals it doesn’t like and reports wrong and libelous conspiracy theory stuff about them.

This type of journalism relies on defamation, repetitive misstatements, mistaken and misinterpreted news reports to cause excitement and confusion. Then they hop in the convertible, head on down the road and do it all over again, leaving the cleanup of their mess and hysteria for others to correct, properly explain, and interpret. Some are sophomorically unable to keep their witty and potentially destructive opinions on stories to themselves. Who is served by this arrogant turpitude and these personal vendettas?

A standing ovation to the newspapers and news services not interested in lowering their conventions via angst-laden tabloid journalism, thus maintaining a sense of integrity, high community standards of justice, honesty and good morals. The result is a positive experience and spirit of harmonious interest for the reader especially during these precarious and uncertain times. They are a tribute to their profession and a true service to society.

Dennis Kostecki
Mammoth Lakes

 

86 Responses to Letter to the editor: Real reporters

  1. Russ Monroe April 12, 2012 at 6:28 pm #

    Sensational? Scandal seeking? Do you mean like: equating the propagation of printed or spoken gibberish with perforating an occupied residence or a human being metal traveling at 2000 feet per second?
    Your dissertation may well have some validity sir, but your execution commits exactly the same offense that you accuse others of, substantively undermining your credibility.

     
  2. 20/20 vision April 13, 2012 at 7:00 am #

    There clearly are those so full of anger and hatred (as evidenced in the recent presidential primary) even against their own kind, they can only rely on ad hominem attacks rather than present any real news.

     
  3. Nice Self Serving Sierra Wave Article April 13, 2012 at 9:48 am #

    Got to love the last paragraph:

    Quote

    “A STANDING OVATION TO THE NEWSPAPERS AND NEWS SERVICES ……..

    MAINTAINING A SENSE OF INTEGRITY,

    HIGH COMMUNITY STANDARDS OF JUSTICE,

    HONESTY AND GOOD MORALS. “

    End Quote

    Hey you forgot:
    “faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound”

    Maybe the Sierra Wave could do some in-depth reporting on:

    MAMMOTH’s FINANCIAL CRISIS and POSSIBLE BANKRUPTCY

    (only if you have time)

    Instead of publishing rant’s like this whenever the Sierra Wave is criticized by its readers.

     
    • Benett Kessler April 13, 2012 at 10:01 am #

      Dear Nice, We didn’t write the article or submit it, so that doesn’t qualify as self-serving. We did offer to publish it as a letter to the editor. However, if you see Sierra Wave as a news organization maintaining “a sense of integrity,” etc., etc., hey, thanks. As for your other misplaced thoughts – we have done in depth reporting on Mammoth’s financial crisis and possible bankruptcy along with many other news stories in the area. If you don’t think we should publish rants, maybe I should delete all of your further posts. And, by the way, no one in our newsroom goes into a phone booth and changes into tights and a cape. Benett Kessler

       
      • Nice Self Serving Sierra Wave Article April 13, 2012 at 10:40 am #

        Let’s review:

        You wrote:
        “Dear Nice, We didn’t write the article or submit it, so that doesn’t qualify as self-serving.”

        Umm…You are aware that YOU DECIDED to PUBLISH IT …..Right? (there’s the self-serving part…get it?)

        You wrote:
        “However, if you see Sierra Wave as a news organization maintaining “a sense of integrity,” etc., etc., hey, thanks.”

        You’re confused again. I was quoting that self-serving piece rubbish you published. If you look closely, I used quotes (“ ”). That is commonly understood in the literate community as: these are not my words or thoughts but someone else’s.

        Well, here’s one thing that we all can agree on….
        You don’t accept criticism well.

        It may serve your news organization well, if you learn from your reader’s comments and move forward in a positive direction, thereby providing a better source of information for your readers.

         
        • Benett Kessler April 13, 2012 at 1:54 pm #

          Dear Nice, I stand by my comments and decisions to publish letters to the editor, and website comments, whether I agree with them or not. Benett

           
          • MJA April 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm #

            Your right on Benett,
            Thanks for the news,

            =

             
        • Ken Warner April 13, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

          This person seems awfully upset about something…..

           
  4. Linda Parker April 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm #

    It does seem rather odd that a letter like this is published.
    Especially when you consider all the more pressing problems at Mammoth.

     
  5. DisgruntledGovDrone April 13, 2012 at 1:18 pm #

    I promised myself that I wouldn’t post here anymore or read the posts, only the news, But I’ve got two last things to say:
    The above letter to the editor is dressed up drivel, a few grains of truth dressed up like a chorus girl, I say SO what, don’t read the trash. If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance….Blind em with B…sht.

    Second, the reason I quit being an avid reader and poster, is because, and forgive me Benett, because otherwise I think your news is by far the best in the area, that you Benett, are totally incapable of impartiality when it comes to LADWP, and also when your liberal political views are too threatened. You personally come on to respond to posters who offend your politics, while allowing the “other side” to run rampant with insults.

    Not that I have a right to give advice, but if I were you I might let someone who isn’t so emotionally involved with the DWP issues report that news.

     
    • Benett Kessler April 13, 2012 at 1:49 pm #

      Disgruntled, I blog like the rest of ’em. When something seems wrong to me, I say so. I notice you do too. Let’s not belabor the label thing. I’m a registered Independent. I do not support either of the two popular parties. In fact, the corruption in government generally causes me real concern. I do object to thoughtless, angry, hateful attitudes. My focus is on human relations and how we treat each other. Political parties, labels, groups, clubs – not into it.

      You have misinterpreted my view of LADWP. First, I have witnessed DWP issues for many years – starting in 1975. I know a lot about the utility, how it operates, what it’s about. I have interviewed people on the subject and investigated the organization. My view of DWP does fly in the face of the old line conventional wisdom which buys into DWP’s own PR – They’re the benevolent dictators who saved the Valley from over-growth. News is about a serious look beneath the surface with the willingness to call it like it is. Sometimes it’s not pretty and polite. Ask the Mammoth Water District about it. Ask Stan Matlick and some of the other old timers about the nature of LADWP. This is not a personal matter. It’s about a powerful city and its utility and how they treat the source of a great deal of their water. Power doesn’t give an organization the right to throw ethics out the window and squeeze for all their worth. Benett Kessler

       
      • DisgruntledGovDrone April 16, 2012 at 1:42 pm #

        I said I wouldn’t, but I feel like I owe it to the folks.

        First off Benett, I too know a lot about DWP, and would actually venture to say that I know more about the Owens Dry Lake then you do by virtue of close to 25 years of on the ground experience, and I’m sure I’ve eaten more of that sweet, sweet dust than most. When you say news is a look beneath, why aren’t you willing to look at Great Basin APCD that way and call it like it is? It certainly is neither pretty nor polite. I am sure I am far better informed about the technical aspects of dust control and the composition of the dust than you or the majority of posters on this site, yet you previously accused me of “having an axe to grind”. Maybe I do, but does that mean it is unfounded?

        Second, I really like the part about “power doesn’t give an organization the right to throw ethics out the window…” Something that Great Basin APCD actually does all the time, yet you continually paint them as altruistic saviors, when they are actually more concerned with expanding their DWP funded little empire, and feathering their own nest. Just taxeaters, as Rob likes to say, because the money ultimately comes out of taxpayer and ratepayer pockets, not the personal funds of the mean old Kingdom of DWP.

        Third, to Dennis Kostecki who is apoplectic about pseudonyms, I can’t speak for others, but I was advised by an attorney to not post under my real name. I may have already said enough for those who know me to guess who I am and I am sure Benett knows.

        Thats All Folks!

         
        • Benett Kessler April 16, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

          I believe I posed the question that you might have an axe to grind. You say here that maybe you do. If you have something you want to report, call me or email me.

          In all of the reports we’ve done on Owens Dry Lake, I have not found the APCD to be unethical. If you know differently, let’s hear it. Accusation by implication does not serve the public or the issues at hand. The APCD is one organization that has worked pointedly to improve and protect the Owens Valley environment. That’s more than any other local agency has done. But, again, if you know of ethical violations, spit it out.

          Benett Kessler

           
    • dennis kostecki April 13, 2012 at 4:06 pm #

      Looking forward to your rebuttal, “Disgruntled”

       
  6. kaat April 13, 2012 at 1:44 pm #

    “Dennis Kostecki
    Mammoth Lakes”

    This guy put the same letter in the Mammoth Times today.

    He is a guy bent on creating conflict and division…he is guilty of exactly the same thing he complains about….

    Since he starting posting here, the overall feel of the conversations have been more negative and antagonistic….I don’t look forward to reading or participating as often as I used to…it’s a bummer and so is he….

    …oh well, the world is full of all kinds of people and now we have him in our mist…there must be a reason we need to deal with him…maybe something about a lesson in tolerance?…indeed.

     
    • 20/20 Vision April 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm #

      So now we have the far-right crazies infiltrating an honest, reliable news source like Sierra Wave telling us per se:

      Liberals are bad
      aka Democrats are bad
      The Mammoth Times is bad
      The Sierra Wave is bad …

      Liberals are bad Americans
      Democrats are bad Americans
      The Mammoth Times is bad for America
      The Sierra Wave is bad for America …

      Thank God even a hardcore conservative like Huckabee has come out and criticized Fox News for their destructive and devisive ways.

       
    • dennis kostecki April 13, 2012 at 3:08 pm #

      re: kaat

      “This guy put the same letter in the Mammoth Times today.

      He is a guy bent on creating conflict and division…he is guilty of exactly the same thing he complains about….”

      And THAT my friends is how the far-right crazies work their magic (with their far-right pals that is). Correction #1 The editor of the Mammoth Times took it upon herself to put my letter in her paper – not me.

      Thanks for providing evidence of what I wrote:

      “This type of journalism (albeit social media such as this format) relies on defamation, repetitive misstatements, mistaken and misinterpreted news reports to cause excitement and confusion. Then they hop in the convertible, head on down the road and do it all over again, leaving the cleanup of their mess and hysteria for others to correct, properly explain, and interpret.”

      I am starting to think the far-right is having an extraordinary problem with the simple truth today. And that will be the reason for their imminent downfall. But when people fold their arms and stick their fingers in their ears – they become a force. An immovable object that must be countered again and again. If not – we just might get someone like Michele Bacman calling the shots for us.

       
      • Russ Monroe April 13, 2012 at 5:24 pm #

        Do you mean defamation like you just posted above?
        You are stetting new standards for hypocrisy here sir.
        Are you capable of making a point based on fact, or is irrelevant overgeneralized mudslinging your only accomplishment?

         
        • dennis kostecki April 13, 2012 at 5:41 pm #

          Dear Russ Monroe,

          A good antidote for neoconservatives is to turn off Limbaugh for a day or so. Read The Sierra Wave, and I guarantee your blood pressure will lower.

           
          • Russ Monroe April 14, 2012 at 7:18 am #

            Dennis: Your assumptions about people are ignorant as your diatribes.
            Limbaugh is a criminal from my perspective.
            At least he can articulate his points.
            Try spending a little tiny bit of time on the logic of your babble, before you write it! Maybe even a tenth of the time you spend on assigning labels to people, or gosh, just stop labeling everyone with you prejudices completely. Until then, your guarantees are valueless.

             
    • dennis kostecki April 13, 2012 at 3:36 pm #

      I’ll watch The Mammoth Times for your rebuttal, kaat.

       
    • Big AL April 13, 2012 at 10:15 pm #

      Good post Kaat … thank you .. yes everything in life happens for a reason as my father once told me. Reading a posts here … in general … has been enlightening .. it gives one contemplation for sure.

       
  7. dennis kostecki April 13, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

    Once again … (And I really get tired of repeating myself)

    Liberal (from Webster – Not Limbaugh)
    adj. belonging to the people; 1. Free by birth; hence, befitting a freeman or gentleman; refined; noble; independent; free; not servile or mean; 2. Bestowing in a large and noble way, as a freeman; generous; bounteous; open-handed; 3. Bestowed in a large way; hence, more than sufficient; abundant; bountiful; ample; profuse; 4. Not strict or rigorous; not confined or restricted to the literal sense; free; 5. Not narrow or contracted in mind; not selfish; enlarged in spirit; 7. Not bound by orthodox tenets or established forms in political or religious philosophy; independent in opinion; not conservative; friendly to great freedom in the constitution or administration of government; having tendency toward democratic or republican, as distinguished from monarchical or aristocratic, forms; as, liberal thinkers; liberal Christians; the Liberal party.

    Liberal (Limbaugh/Beck/Fox News/Ann Coulter definition)
    Anything goes, communistic, a bad American, a bad Christian, a bad person

     
    • kaat April 13, 2012 at 3:21 pm #

      Dennis….please…just stop…you have lost control…

       
    • Russ Monroe April 13, 2012 at 3:27 pm #

      Then, please Dennis, stop repeating yourself!
      Everyone else is tired of it too.

       
    • Tourbillon April 13, 2012 at 3:56 pm #

      I agree with your definition of classical liberalism Dennis, but you and I are behind the times because the modern usage of “liberal” bears little resemblance to it. Frankly I’d like both left and right to stop misusing such a fine word, and confine its use to its proper, classical sense, as you define it. Instead, I’d like to see the encrusted political edifice on the Left referred to more accurately as “statist; indoctrinated with unquestioned dogma; inability to regard political opponents as anything other than evil and/or stupid.” Really kind of the opposite of “liberal”, isn’t it? For short, let’s just say “statist” and preserve our beloved term “liberal” for true liberals.

       
      • dennis kostecki April 13, 2012 at 6:07 pm #

        Control the language and you control the world.

        Don’t think for a second that the rabid right will ever turn on their guru Limbaugh and de-demonize the word liberal (aka Democrat).

        That’s the same as thinking they would ever turn on the last administration, suggesting their unwinnable wars (that only made Cheney and his wife’s Halliburton and Lockheed Martin richer while bankrupting the country).

        What can you say?
        It’s a wacky world.

         
        • U R A Nut Dennis Kostecki April 13, 2012 at 10:53 pm #

          Please get the help that you so desperately need Dennis.

           
          • dennis kostecki April 14, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

            Nothing like a little substance and deep thought posting from yet another anonymous and brave genius.

            Limbaugh would be proud.

             
    • sarah April 15, 2012 at 2:58 pm #

      I would bet money that you have never ever listened to Rush Limbaugh’s program for more than 15 minutes. If you have listened to him over a period of time, I would embrace your views as at least informed. If you haven’t, you don’t really know what you’re talking about. And no, I’m not a fan of Rush Limbaugh’s, I don’t like his presentation and his over the top comments, but I have listened to him and know that he’s probably more informed about economics and the workings of the government than any of us posting here are. It’s his job. Listen to his program for 2 weeks and see what you think. OH NOOOOOOOO.

       
  8. Uff-Da April 13, 2012 at 3:33 pm #

    Hey Dennis-

    Get a job and try being productive! Thank you.

     
    • Wayne Deja April 13, 2012 at 5:48 pm #

      Uff-da..For some reason I thought of Sean Hannity (Fox news) while reading this.

       
  9. Dingo April 13, 2012 at 3:53 pm #

    For some reason I thought of Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) while reading this.

     
  10. dennis kostecki April 13, 2012 at 5:42 pm #

    Bottom line in all of this is:
    Obama by a landslide.

     
    • Wayne Deja April 13, 2012 at 10:07 pm #

      Been trying to think of a good running mate for Romney….probably should be female to try to pry the women voters away from Obama….maybe Kim Kardashian…or Lady GaGa.

       
      • Trouble April 14, 2012 at 10:32 am #

        Wayne- be nice to Kardashian and Lady Gaga. I would vote for them.

         
        • Wayne Deja April 14, 2012 at 8:04 pm #

          Trouble….Let’s put it this way…If…and that’s a REAL BIG if the Democrats forget when election day is,or fail to vote…and the Republicans do win the Presidential election…which I highly doubt…I’d feel a lot better about things if Kim or Lady Gaga were the VP …and a LOT safer…than I would have back in 2008 if Sarah Palin were there…G forbid..ready to step in for McCain.

           
          • Big AL April 16, 2012 at 7:31 pm #

            *hands Wayne an O and a D so he can spell God. lol

             
        • Rob April 16, 2012 at 3:54 pm #

          That’s exactly what’s wrong with this Country, people would actually vote for Lady GaGa.

           
    • Rob April 16, 2012 at 3:59 pm #

      Just what we need four more years of stifling energy develope in this Country while we develope energy in Brazil and other Countries.

      I tend to believe Obama will win by a landslide, but it doesn’t mean it’a a good thing.

      It only continues to proove the masses are asses.

       
  11. Nice Diatribe Dennis. April 13, 2012 at 6:16 pm #

    Maybe you could focus some of your outrage on some of the REAL ISSUES that concern the town of Mammoth.

    Ummm…. I don’t know……maybe the ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM….aka:

    THE TOWN OF MAMMOTH IS HEADING TOWARD BANKRUPTCY

    Just think of all the wonderful things that could be accomplished if you tackled some of the issues associated with Mammoth’s Financial Crisis. Like…..

    – How is the town’s bankruptcy going to affect the citizens.

    – Why is Mammoth’s Town Council insisting is on closed meetings (NO CITIZENS) that deal with the $42 million MLLA judgment.

    – Why does Mammoth’s Town Council continue to STALL and drag their feet concerning MLLA. It’s now 4 YEARS after MLLA was initially awarded $30M. That $30M is now $42M. And probably soon to be $45M+.

    – Why is it NOT being reported that Mammoth has two options before it resorts to bankruptcy protection (engage in a neutral evaluation process with its creditors with the help of a mediator OR declare a fiscal emergency) – (reference Assembly Bill 506, aka… AB506 or Sections 53760.X of the California Government Code)

    – Why is Mammoth choosing the “neutral evaluation process” option when MLLA has already said “no thanks”

    – Why is it NOT being reported that MLLA is under no legal obligation to participate in this “neutral evaluation process”

    – Why did Mammoth’s Town Council unanimously approved a $4.4 million loan from itself, payable to itself.

    – Why aren’t the citizens up in arms over this and PROTESTING their outrage over the incompetence of the town’s government.

    Mammoth’s Finacial Crisis Should be Everyone’s Number One Concern

     
    • Rock of Ages April 14, 2012 at 12:14 am #

      Bravo Nice….finally, someone who is getting it. To add…
      Why did they just add another fulltime position to the airport in these financially destitude conditions…especially when MMM just went on to pronounce that fulltime benefit costs were bringing them to the depths of doom?
      Hasn’t the Town gone from over 130 fulltime to just over 70 fulltime people recently? How, exactly is THAT contributing to unforseen and unpredictable cost to the Town?
      Operational costs this winter couldn’t have been anything but down, ….where are those numbers?
      Point is,…this MMM bulls..t is ALL spin. Attorney and consultant fees! That’s where your money’s going! Those were, and are, the unpredictables.Wake the F up!
      This is why BUSINESS has ONLY the resposnibility of protectting BUSINESS interests, and GOVERNMENT should be involved in NOTHING profit minded,but simply protecting it’s community SAFETY and infrastructure!
      This is manipulated information here folks, from your TOWN govt, with a secret agenda. PUBLICLY ASK TO HEAR THE AGENDA!

       
      • Rock of Ages April 14, 2012 at 12:40 am #

        Of course, if you beleive in this path, as many of the wealthy and business owner’s might, then…enjoy!!!! But don’t Bitch!!! It is by your command that we travel this path….

         
    • Ken Warner April 14, 2012 at 11:25 am #

      “Why aren’t the citizens up in arms over this and PROTESTING their outrage over the incompetence of the town’s government.”

      Excellent question!!!

       
      • Rob April 16, 2012 at 8:53 am #

        Many people are to busy skiing & enjoying the great outdoors to follow TOML politics, even though they’ve lived her for a few years they have yet to legally change their address and register to vote within TOML.

        If they younger folks in town were to get politically involved they could elect whomever they want.

        btw, the only foam-at-the-mouther on this site is Dennis Kostecki.

         
  12. dennis kostecki April 14, 2012 at 6:35 am #

    It seems to me the questions posted above by “Nice” would be better served if directed towards those in high places who were calling the shots then – and are still calling the shots today.

    However, if money, favors, bribery, nepotism, partnership and just plain graft was/is involved, don’t count on any open-door policy anytime soon.

    Meanwhile, I stand by my thoughts printed in two of our periodicals regarding the slimy and self-serving side of journalism practiced by some today that can be likened to a drive-by shooting.

     
  13. MJA April 14, 2012 at 8:01 am #

    Why would Terry Ballas want to destroy the community of Mammoth?
    Why would the DWP want to take Mammoth’s water away?
    Greed?

    =

     
  14. Actually Do Something April 14, 2012 at 9:23 am #

    Dennis why don’t you actually do something about Mammoth’s Financial Problems.

    Protest, Demonstrate, demand to attend the town government meeting, hold your own meetings, write letters, etc.

    You obviously have a lot of time on you hands.

    Or are you just one of those people who’s all talk – and just does nothing.

     
  15. dennis kostecki April 14, 2012 at 10:43 am #

    Why don’t you come out from behind the curtain like the Wizard of Oz, post your actual name
    and write a letter to the editor yourself. (yeah, right)
    Then I would say your posting actually has some worthwhile substance behind it other than the usual Rush Limbaugh impression that seems to be in vogue for many.
    Meanwhile, I’ll continue reading: “How To Deal with Nasty People without becoming one yourself. (tough to do today when dealing with today’s neoconservative types.

     
    • People Don't Be a DENNIS April 14, 2012 at 2:17 pm #

      Yep….Just like I thought…..

      Dennis Kostecki…all talk…no action.

      People Don’t Be a DENNIS !

      Do something about Mammoth’s Financial Problems.

       
      • Ken Warner April 14, 2012 at 9:05 pm #

        “Do something about Mammoth’s Financial Problems”

        Good idea! What do you suggest?

         
        • People Don't Be a DENNIS April 15, 2012 at 8:37 pm #

          Here some suggestions that were listed earlier:

          Protest, Demonstrate, demand to attend the town government meeting, hold your own meetings, write letters, etc.

          I’m sure we all can think of other items to add.

           
    • Tourbillon April 14, 2012 at 7:47 pm #

      Agreed Dennis. By all means, continue reading: “How To Deal with Nasty People without becoming one yourself.” Assume you have not gotten past the introduction. Perseverence must be your resolution.

       
  16. dennis kostecki April 14, 2012 at 9:09 pm #

    Amazing how so many sad and insecure souls hide behind their bogus monikers to take cheap shots on this blog. They contribute nothing.
    And this is the honorable and clever thing to do in the minds of these cowardly types that seem to be permeating our world today.
    Then they give themselves a ” thumbs up” to boot.
    Bona fide American heroes they are.
    : >

     
  17. kaat April 15, 2012 at 3:46 am #

    The Dennis Lessons:

    1. Just b/c someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they are from a different political party.

    2. Just b/c someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they are Rush L. lovers.

    3. Just b/c someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they are stupid.

    4. Just b/c someone has a differnet opinion than you doesn’t mean they are “conservative”.

    5. Just b/c someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they supported the last administration.

    6. Just b/c someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean you can call them names and feel justified in doing so.

    7. Just b/c someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean you should feel somehow superior to them.

    8. Just b/c someon has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they are “wrong”.

    ….and may I add (to hightlight the Lessons) comments on three hot topics that also get throw into neat little black and white boxes….

    9. Just b/c someone doesn’t “like” the current president doesn’t mean that they hate black people.

    10. Just b/c someone doesn’t “like” the current president doesn’t mean they are independents or republicans.

    11. Just b/c someone doesn’t support gay marriage doesn’t mean they hate gays.

    12. Just b/c someone is female doesn’t mean they support abortion.

    ****************************************

    Dennis’ main error, (and he is not alone in his thought process and we can all find ourselves there too if we are not careful), is that he jumps to incorrect conclusions about posters/people based on the simple fact that they may not agree with him…. and then off he goes with his rants about how stupid people are b/c they see things in a different way….in addion to constantly pointing out how superior he and his views are….

    Please take a class in “Logic” sir….b/c your thought process makes little sense…

    Also, is this Dennis too (see below)? If so, seems his full-time job is writing letters to the editor,etc…..this time in Utah?….

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700042360/Divisive-attitude.html

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705359228/Ponzi-schemes-abound.html

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705358596/2-kinds-of-socialism.html

     
  18. dennis kostecki April 15, 2012 at 6:39 am #

    With so many posters of this social media blog refusing to use their true names when posting their ad hominem attacks, one is reminded of the KKK cowardly hiding behind their sheets.

    “There is a race war against whites. But our people – my white brothers and sisters – will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way – law and order – love of family – love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. ”

    National Director of The Knights, Pastor Thomas Robb

     
    • Trouble April 15, 2012 at 9:44 pm #

      Dennis- how do I know that’s your real name? I don’t. If you want another name try Broken Record!

       
      • Harry April 16, 2012 at 10:12 am #

        What difference does a name make? It is what a person posts that identifies.

         
      • Big AL April 16, 2012 at 7:40 pm #

        lol or Dennis the Menace

         
    • Big AL April 16, 2012 at 7:39 pm #

      Good post kaat .. yes we all can fall into that trap.

       
  19. Liberty Bell April 15, 2012 at 9:16 am #

    Although this website does publish some stories about happenings of the eastern sierra, it certainly is a self serving propaganda page for liberals. When you have a situation where the sole reporter of this place(Kessler) is able to remove and control the dialog of comments and feedback, critical thinking is censored. Enjoy your Koolaid!

     
    • Harry April 16, 2012 at 10:10 am #

      “Liberty Bell April 15, 2012 at 9:16 am # Although this website does publish some stories about happenings of the eastern sierra, it certainly is a self serving propaganda page for liberals. When you have a situation where the sole reporter of this place(Kessler) is able to remove and control the dialog of comments and feedback, critical thinking is censored. Enjoy your Koolaid!”

      Liberty Bell,

      Why don’t you start your own critical thinking blog and post the link here so that your like minded non-liberal or is it conservative friends/followers can get together and mix the koolaid?

       
    • 20/20 vision April 16, 2012 at 1:45 pm #

      Here’s some “liberty” for ya, “liberty bell.” Enjoy!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGVaEGgSNV8&feature=related

       
    • Big AL April 16, 2012 at 7:44 pm #

      Liberty .. none of my comments have been removed … and i have criticized the admin here. Ding Dong .. blog it.

       
  20. dennis kostecki April 15, 2012 at 11:03 am #

    Instead of lurking in the shadows under a bogus name, why not come out from behind the curtain, post your real name and then hurl your far-right insults, Turbo … whatever?

     
    • People Don't Be a DENNIS April 15, 2012 at 8:43 pm #

      Okay Dennis.

      My name is Mike Pace….. Now what?

      Do you want my phone number, my address, my social security number, etc…..

      Get a new hobby Dennis.

       
  21. 20/20 vision April 15, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    Since “Liberty Bell” (like so many from the far, far-right brings up the word liberal (the demonized, Limbaugh version – not Webster’s)

    Here is correct definition:

    Liberal (from Webster – Not Limbaugh)
    adj. belonging to the people; 1. Free by birth; hence, befitting a freeman or gentleman; refined; noble; independent; free; not servile or mean; 2. Bestowing in a large and noble way, as a freeman; generous; bounteous; open-handed; 3. Bestowed in a large way; hence, more than sufficient; abundant; bountiful; ample; profuse; 4. Not strict or rigorous; not confined or restricted to the literal sense; free; 5. Not narrow or contracted in mind; not selfish; enlarged in spirit; 7. Not bound by orthodox tenets or established forms in political or religious philosophy; independent in opinion; not conservative; friendly to great freedom in the constitution or administration of government; having tendency toward democratic or republican, as distinguished from monarchical or aristocratic, forms; as, liberal thinkers; liberal Christians; the Liberal party.

    Liberal The far, far right definition
    Anything goes, communist, a bad American, a bad Christian, a bad person overall

    These far-right freaks are a hoot! They actually believe Michele Bachman should be President of the U.S.

     
  22. Tourbillon April 15, 2012 at 7:39 pm #

    Lessee, from the open minded “liberals” posting above, those with whom they disagree are…freaks…Ku Klux Klansmen…cowards.

    Yes, you lofty liberals certainly have elevated sensibilities. Now do scurry back under your rock. There’s a good gentleman…

     
  23. happy lib April 16, 2012 at 9:16 am #

    One of these days some bitter neocon might actually post something of substance on this blog rather than the same tired “Sure I voted for Cheney and Bush … twice – and I’d do it again!”
    Meanwhile, those angst-ridden neocons might want to chew on this (if they still have teeth)
    A neconservative is actually a nazi – without the sense of humor.
    Keep postin’ them clever Limbaugh “I hate liberals (aka Democrats) !”
    You always make my day.

    : >

     
  24. NewEra/ Jeremiah Joseph April 16, 2012 at 9:23 am #

    I am one that appreciates the fact we can give our opinion on this website. But looking at some of these post’s gives me the impression that some of you need to stop wasting your energy arguing with eachother and go make a difference by volunteering your time by helping those that need it, rather then prove to eachother how smart you are!!
    If we cant work with one another or be close minded to other views then what more can you expect to accomplish that benefits someone other then yourself?

     
    • Big AL April 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm #

      Good post Jeremiah

       
  25. anonymous al April 16, 2012 at 10:23 am #

    It must be difficult for those who voted for the Cheney/Bush administration – twice.
    Only to find out Dick Cheney and his wife Lynne were former CEOs of defense contractors Halliburton and Lockheed Martin, who forced unwinnable wars on America that made (and continue to make) those two companies richer while the country goes bankrupt.

    Liberal thinkers can switch gears and positions just like that having digested the evidence, while the other poor souls seem remain stuck in their childish party affiliation nonsense.

    But as a younger person once said, “The neocons (that bear no resemblance of the conservative ideals of their fathers and grandfathers) will eventually die off.”

     
    • Rob April 16, 2012 at 2:18 pm #

      My business was doing better under Bush/Cheney then the current administration.

      Obama hired government workers to do what we use to do as contract workers. And yes we did the work for less money. Obama called it creating jobs, I guess he didn’t realize private sector folks had those jobs before he made them government jobs.

      All Obama did was make government bigger and lowered his tax base in the process. How the hec does that make sense?

       
      • 20/20 vision April 16, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

        I’m sure Rob can relate to these angry white people.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtIYpBGlv1U&feature=related

         
      • Ken Warner April 16, 2012 at 4:01 pm #

        What you describe is unfortunate. I hope your business was able to find more work outside of Government employment.

        As I write this I wonder at the fundamental conflict in your words.

        You complain that you no longer have a Government contract — then complain about the Government growing too large. That doesn’t quite fit together in my simple mind. Surely you should be happy to not be part of a Socialist agenda.

        Ok, I’m teasing you a little. But your situation is a good example of the confusion in our society where on the one hand big, socialist government is reviled and on the other hand when big, socialist government cuts programs — people complain. I guess people who want smaller government want it to be smaller in ways that don’t affect themselves.

        It’s not a simple society is it?

         
        • Rob April 16, 2012 at 8:24 pm #

          Ken, I’m just wondering where all the money is going to come from to pay three times the salaries, and three times the benifits? I always thought the idea was to do more with less.

          teasing is ok,

          When the only jobs are local, state, and federal jobs we’re in big trouble.

           
          • upthecreek April 16, 2012 at 9:25 pm #

            Don’t Worry Rob the feds (uNCLE bEN) WILL PRINT all they need..

            GGW

            0

             
      • NewEra April 16, 2012 at 6:01 pm #

        But bush and cheney ideas and policies got us in this mess, this mess that Mr. Romney knows nothing about, he could care less how high gas prices are, and as rich as he is he will never feel the real effects of this mess!!

         
        • Wayne Deja April 16, 2012 at 6:34 pm #

          And just another reason Romney has NO CHANCE to win the election…

           
          • NewEra/ Jer. Joseph April 16, 2012 at 7:41 pm #

            Dislike this!!
            Obama 2012!!
            How rich somebody is shouldn’t matter when picking a president. The way I see it is all of us consume way too many natural resources without giving anything back. Money and greed is the problem at a national level, state level and local level. I see romney to be the last to separate himself from that mentality of taking our earth for granted.
            Isn’t that the conservative idea to drill and take all they can get from the earth. Also conservative views have a lot in common with racist rednecks views from the south.

             
        • Rob April 17, 2012 at 11:45 am #

          Previous administrations definitely had a part in creating the mess. However the current administration is continuing down the same path.

           
          • 20/20 vision April 17, 2012 at 12:32 pm #

            Patience Rob.
            Patience.

             
          • NewEra April 17, 2012 at 1:28 pm #

            yeah I haven’t seen the needed sacrifice to turn us around, But what i do see is our current administration spearheading issues that need to be addressed.
            Natural Gas, Coal, and Oil is not the answer. if we continue down that path and keep creating things that make our life more convenient that rely on those energy sources what happens when we run out? I mean i might not happen in our lifetime but why should we be so selfish to leave the problem to the younger generations after us?

             
  26. 20/20 Vision April 16, 2012 at 10:52 am #

    Ah, yes.
    I see the Limbaughites are at it again.
    Where were they when the Bush/Cheney group was running the country into the ground?

     
  27. 20/20 Vision April 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    Ever wonder if a Limbaughite can make a complete sentence without throwing in the word “liberal” ?

     

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