“Very good possibility” of one marijuana dispensary closure

medicalmjIn the wake of federal prosecutors threatening to seize property leased to medical marijuana dispensaries in California, the owner of at least one Mammoth Lakes dispensary says there is a “very good possibility” he will close.

Steve Klassen, medical marijuana advocate and owner of the dispensary called Green Mammoth, confirmed on Sunday that there is a very good possibility he will close his dispensary on November 19th, the last of the 45 day federal notice to comply with demands, he said.  Klassen said he will release more information later. Klassen did add that he feels he has a right to heal himself however he sees fit and “should have access to that medicine.”

Pressed for further details, Klassen said that federal prosecutors have interpreted the law to make his business illegal.  “I’ll release a statement in the near future,” he said.  Sierra Wave has placed a call to the second dispensary, Mammoth Lakes Wellness.  We await the owner’s latest response.

In 1996, California voted to legalize medical marijuana, and Mammoth Lakes voters cast their ballots in favor of Measure M last year to allow dispensaries in town.  In spite of local and state positions, the federal government has decided to play hardball since possession and distribution of marijuana is still a federal crime.

California Attorney General Kamala Harris has been quoted as saying that federal prosecutors should not overreach their crackdown on pot dispensaries.  She said that this could get in the way of legitimate patients.  Harris did say the feds should focus on “significant traffickers of illegal drugs.”

In early October, federal prosecutors did send notices to dispensary landlords that their property would be subject to federal seizure if they continue to provide space to a dispensary in 45 days.  Prosecutors have also been quoted as saying they want to stop the sale, distribution and cultivation of marijuana in California. Many others have said that the Obama Administration has now gone back on its word not to raid medical marijuana dispensers and caregivers.

 

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69 Responses to “Very good possibility” of one marijuana dispensary closure

  1. Wayne Deja October 23, 2011 at 6:03 pm #

    Attorney General Harris……THERE lies the problem…..and the key words….”legitimate patients”….The 4%… the “legitimate patients”that have,and should have these med cards are the ones that will suffer.

     
    • Jimmy October 25, 2011 at 8:57 am #

      Wayne you are not a doctor! Where do you get 4%? You simply cannot make up facts!

       
  2. CarbonFootPrint October 23, 2011 at 9:26 pm #

    I knew this was coming. I saw the writing on the wall and it was spelled G-R-E-E-D! Proposition 215 was called the “Compassionate Use Act” for a reason. A majority of the people who voted for Prop 215 believed it was for a good cause- getting some weed to some very ill patients to help them eat and not feel nauseated from their diseases. But nope, greed took over.

    Everyone was complaining about the pharmaceutical companies charging an arm and a leg for their drugs. Where is the compassion when you are making bundles of cash off of “sick” people? There’s no compassion in that.

    As Cuba Gooding Jr. once said, SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!

    That’s what it was all about.

     
    • Jimmy October 25, 2011 at 9:03 am #

      Dear Carbon footprint,
      I highly encourage you to educate yourself! You are simply out of your element… Yes, some people are profiteering, those are the people the feds are going after. What Green Mammoth makes (or doesn’t make) is public record have any of you people looked at how much Klassen has made? It’s public record! Go check it out, and report back to this blog what you find!

       
      • Rob October 25, 2011 at 12:30 pm #

        I’d rather Benett go check it out and report back.

        What makes this information public record?

         
        • Wayne October 25, 2011 at 2:42 pm #

          That is a pathetic response! don’t just ask someone to do it for you! Do it yourself instead of just typing from your safe little computer. Good thing everyone doesn’t wait for someone else to take action. If you are not gonna look into it don’t have an opinion.

           
      • CarbonFootPrint October 25, 2011 at 3:33 pm #

        @Jimmy

        Relax; my comment was not directed specifically to the Mammoth operations. It was a statement about the majority of the operations in the state. Which, based on the action of the Feds, you could conclude I’m spot on. The people running those money-making operations (dictionary definition- businesses) ruined it for the non-profit collectives. Klassen referred to his operation as business. So is it a business or a collective? Most businesses I deal with, if not all, are for profit.

        As for educating myself, I do and I have. I don’t comment about issues I don’t know anything about, because people who do usually sound like an arse.

        The point I was trying to make was greed usually ruins everything. Our country’s current economic state can attest to that.

         
  3. Eamon October 24, 2011 at 8:16 am #

    With this latest news all I can think is that Obama has contradicted his campaign promise to not prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries in States where medical marijuana was legal.

     
    • Wayne Deja October 24, 2011 at 4:07 pm #

      Maybe has something to do with what a joke this “compassionate”law for the very ill patients has turned into,don’t you think?Wasn’t intended to allow 20 somethings with ingrown toenails a loop=hole to deal drugs.

       
      • Jimmy October 25, 2011 at 9:10 am #

        Once again Wayne, you are not a doctor! Have you any sort of medical education? Have you personally checked the medical condition of these twenty-somethings as you call them? Is it so unbelievable that some of the younger generation are educating themselves on holistic medicine and herbs vs. harmful addictive narcotics and opiates. Check the statistics! Do not make them up as you go along. Does it come as a surprise to you that some youth abuse alcohol, painkillers, cough syrup, household solvents etc…Do you intend to ban those as well? Do us all a favor on this blog and do some real research to back up your uneducated posts and made up statistics!

         
        • Ollie October 25, 2011 at 1:38 pm #

          Please! for all of you who thumbed down the above comment, back it up! with an educated response. I dare you!

           
        • Wayne Deja October 25, 2011 at 1:54 pm #

          Jimmy…..If I lived in a bigger city,and could mention some of the people I personally know that have MMJ cards,and their reasons for it,without throwing them under the bus,and probably them being laughed at I would do so.When this prop was put to a vote,it was not intended for all the loop-holes that have taken place.There is NOTHING compassionate about what it has become……except for that 4% that it was intended for.

           
      • Rob October 25, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

        Loopholes are ment to be taken advantage of until filled.

         
        • Wayne Deja October 27, 2011 at 3:50 pm #

          Rob….real nice…..that logic,that’s how users….and moochers live by…

           
    • gwjones October 24, 2011 at 4:59 pm #

      The deal lies in semantics. The feds are not prosecuting the owners of the dispensaries. They are going after the owners of the properties that are leasing space to the dispensaries, threatening to seize property (i.e., strip malls and/or buildings).

       
  4. Jake October 24, 2011 at 10:24 am #

    Thanks God! Calvert has been ripping people off with super high prices so I quit smoking pot and stick to snowboarding. Calvert states that his prices are “normal” then I see his brand new motorhome towing a brand new trailer loaded with new bikes. This is all in front of his Huge house in Mammoth. RIPPPPPP OFF!!!!!!

     
    • Ollie October 25, 2011 at 1:48 pm #

      Sounds like you are just mad at the world! Comparing what others have to what you don’t have will get you nowhere. Fast! Maybe he has 2 ply toilet paper in his house as well. let it go. Dont be a victim! be a solution!

       
  5. kaat October 24, 2011 at 11:45 am #

    I hope that those who truly need it for medical reasons will be able to get what they need to reduce their suffering.

    I am not sure why the medical professionals do not find a legal way to connect their patients to a source. If a doctor truly wants to ease his/her patients’ suffering they should figure out this legal issue.

    I have always felt the marijuana dispensaries should be located in a medical building or medical clinic for the medical patients that need the drug….makes sense to me and seems the feds won’t have such a problem with the situation.

    I must say that the one located in the outlet mall right next to a dance studio where young kids take dance lessons (I am 100% positive that the studio was there first) is in poor taste. I am sure that the shops cannot be within a certain distance to schools and in my mind the dance studio is a “school” of sorts for kids (and adults). Just saying that that placement is way off the mark.

    I hope it all a works out for those that really need the drug for true medical reasons.

     
  6. Dave October 24, 2011 at 4:27 pm #

    I’m no expert in all this but maybe the Fed playing hardball will just galvanize the supporters of Med Marijuana to organize and fight harder to get the Fed Law changed in support of Med Marijuana??

    Maybe that is the intent of Obama looking at the big picture – before another administration takes over that’s really not in favor and order real crackdowns on MM?

     
  7. Steve October 24, 2011 at 7:09 pm #

    This is stupid, the people of California voted on this. This is not a rogue industry, sure there are people who abuse it like any other substance (pain killers), do you see the drug companies stop selling their products or government shutting down Walgreens. How many people reading this have not tried it or can get and ounce with a quick phone call??? Are all of you a bunch of lazy or violent people?
    Marijuana are used by people who are at both end of society, even Steve Jobs used LSD in his lifetime.

     
    • kaat October 25, 2011 at 11:06 am #

      Steve-

      I need to bring up the fact that the people of California voted on Prop 8 too – but of course that didn’t stop others from saying the will of the people should be overturned.

      Just saying…..that your statement: “This is stupid, the people of California voted on this.” doen’t make sense in light of the Prop 8 situation, ya know.

      And no, I don’t want to get into a discussion about Prop 8. It’s just that so many are vocal about what the people of Calif voted on regarding Marijuana….but then use another argument to say that the will of the people regarding Prop 8 is BS…. Seriously, you cannot have it both ways….either it’s the “will of the people” for everything they vote on or not.

      I still hope this all works out though for those that need the drug for true medical reasons.

       
      • Water Boy October 25, 2011 at 5:13 pm #

        Kaat, your logic is indisputable! Great comparison.

         
  8. downthecreek October 24, 2011 at 9:36 pm #

    @Steve..

    Since when does the government Listen to the PEOPLE..Do you think we live in a Republic??

    It is a sad time in the History of the United States of America

    Wake up sheeple

     
  9. Jake October 24, 2011 at 10:00 pm #

    I quit smoking medical marijuana because it made me stupid and broak! You should try it. You will fell beter.

     
    • Jimmy October 25, 2011 at 9:16 am #

      If medical marijuana made you stupid and broke you were NOT using medical marijuana! you were getting high! (huge difference) You deserve to be tired and broke!

       
    • Ollie October 25, 2011 at 11:06 am #

      Jake- hard to take anything you post seriously when you cant spell broke or better. Try spell checker. People will take you more seriously when you use proper grammer and punctuation.

       
      • HH October 25, 2011 at 1:46 pm #

        it is spelled grammar, Ollie.

         
        • Ollie October 26, 2011 at 9:03 am #

          Yup! Guilty. While we’re at it… you cant start a sentence with a lower case letter either. Thanks HH! Sometimes I forget that an eye for an eye makes the world blind!

           
        • Ollie October 26, 2011 at 9:12 am #

          Yes! you are correct HH. While we’re at it, you can’t start a sentence with a lower case either. Thanks for reminding me that an eye for an eye makes the world blind. Did you care to comment on the issue? Or just point out my obviously funny blunder?

           
  10. Jack Herer October 24, 2011 at 10:38 pm #

    Leave the Politics and Police enforcement to the local governments.

    I rather not go back to the streets, get ripped off and get whatever “the Man” decides to give me.

    To have a good choice of Cannabis, A nice safe location, open 7 days a week, employees that are friendly and safe accesss is well worth the small markup from black market prices. Last time I checked It wasnt free to build, furnish, educate, apply for a city license, pay employees, rent , utilities etc. To me as a collective member and having no clue how to grow my medicine this is a sad day if we are sent back to the streets.

    Shame on the feds for there scare tactics.

    REVOLT> Damn the Man, Save Safe Access, Save the Empire.

    and skateboarding is not a crime…
    WE are the 99.

     
  11. Jack Herer October 25, 2011 at 10:02 am #

    Jake
    Cannabis didnt make you stupid or ” broak”. It’s your work lazy work ethic and education. . FYI the correct spelling is (Broke.) Go back to Adult school.

    Kaat= I agree with your position on Dispensary Locations and there proximity to educational institutions. I understand MLW is located in a Luxury Outlet Mall. That being said you must realize that to be at least 1000ft from a school, church etc and also finding a landlord with Medical Office Space is very hard to find. Maybe you know of space??

    Mammoth Citizens= Mammoth has gone above and beyond in its ordinance with proper signage, restricted hours of operation, background checks on Dispensary Directors and working together with the local Police and Governments. Mammoth Lakes had a Public Vote and NO storefront dispensieries were in operation until they had the approval of the Town.,For a dispensary to show restraint and wait for the Publics VOTE and open only when the ordinance was passed is the commendable and worthy of respect. To have respectable directors and employees at the collectives is a great thing.

    Greedy Business people open up with no regulation and go until they get caught. The local governments in Los Angeles, Long Beach, San Diego are to blame. Regulate it, control it and respect the will of the people.

    They Feds may succed in lowering access to safe medicine, but we still have the right to medical marijuana and we are not going away.

    Pepsi or Coke?
    Cannabis or Ritalin?

    MY CHOICE NOT YOURS!
    Prop 215 still lives……

     
  12. tm October 25, 2011 at 10:16 am #

    Well, I don’t see what the fuss is all about. The Chief already said MLPD doesn’t enforce federal law.

     
  13. Ollie October 25, 2011 at 10:19 am #

    Couldnt agree with Jack more! The key issue here is safe access. It is irrelevent who is recommended cannabis by their doctor or how old they are! People in there twenties can have chronic, terminal, or other ailments not visible to the naked eye. Is that so hard to believe? Do some people use marijuana recreationally? of course! Just like alcohol! Last time I checked alcohol doesnt come close to having the medical benefits of cannabis! When you go to fill a prescription, drive your car, ride your skateboard, buy alcohol, or even a gun for that matter! you are exercising your right to potentially make a bad decision. God bless America! Does everyone do that? of course not. Some do make bad decisions and they will have to pay the consequences. As many collectives down south were doing just that abusing the system. I highly encourage everyone to educate themselves on this matter! The real issue is the government and Obama going back on their word to leave medical marijuana alone. Politics as usual. The collectives profits are public record! For all of you uneducated folks blogging away with personal agendas and resentments. Educate yourself! For all the patients out there- You voted for this! make some noise! Be active! I went to school for this, I assure you I know what i am talking about. However, Im not trying to be right, I am trying to educate! Then everyone can make their own educated decision! For those of you shouting “profit motives”. Please explain to me what profit motive Steve Klassen had to clean up our towns drinking water? (among other things)

     
  14. KH October 25, 2011 at 10:33 am #

    California is making me want to move away more each day. Cracking down on dispensaries has nothing to do with illegitmate patients. This is all because the day we elected Jerry Brown, was the day we signed over all our rights. California voted for the right to get weed if you have a prescription and as long as you have that, they have no right to tell you if it is for a good enough reason. What we need to do is forget state level and go federal. Until you can get the federal law overturned there will always be this issue of uneducated people making horrible decisions.

     
  15. JB October 25, 2011 at 10:38 am #

    I am a medical marijuana patient who is 24 years old. I have also suffered from emotional and physcological disabilities since I was ten. I have tried numurous medications and have suffered from unhealthy side effects. Everything from gaining weight to sleeping disorers and digestive problems. Marijuana is the only medication that I have found that works and doesn’t give me any unhealthy side effects and I am appaled that the government would take such medication from me when I need it to be a productive member of society.

     
    • Logic October 26, 2011 at 1:51 pm #

      Keep smoking JB. Then you can smoke more marijuana for your lung cancer!

       
      • Wayne Deja October 26, 2011 at 7:27 pm #

        Logic….If you can believe this and not think I’m just making it up, check back a few months ago,in the archives on one of the marijuana story blogs and someone said(and I accually think it was Steve Klassen saying it….just before he opened up his pot shop),that marijuana PREVENTS cancer!!

         
        • B October 27, 2011 at 9:48 am #

          It does Wayne! Again you are out of your element. It is a proven fact endorsed by MANY doctors and scientists! Including Andrew Weil M.D and Julie Holland M.D…These are real doctor”s with real degrees! that are highly respected in their field. What’s on your resume’? Google it. Does it come as a surprise that the california board of Doctor’s are pushing for legalization? These people are not stupid wayne. This is scientific FACT! Everyone is born with a form of Cannabis already in their body known as endocannabinoids they bind with cannabinoids. Cannabinoids have been PROVEN to kill unhealthy cancer cells and leave healthy ones alone. Once more, educate yourself! Prove me wrong! Thats what this blog is for. Do some research, and come back with something legitimate to say (that you can back up)

           
          • Wayne Deja October 27, 2011 at 5:39 pm #

            I’ll take a break from game #6 of the World Series to prove you wrong….or at least show most Doctors don’t suggest marijuana abuse prevents or cures cancer.The American Thorack Society states marijuana contains over more than 50% of the chemicals related to lung cancer than cigarettes do.And that does not include all the other problems it causes…same ones as cigs do to people over years of use….obvious when you see people in their late 40’s or 50’s that have never outgrown the habit…again,not to throw anyone in my little town under the bus,but people around my age that still use pot,if I don’t know them,it’s easy to tell….if I do know them,well……..it’s easy to tell.

             
  16. RJ October 25, 2011 at 12:19 pm #

    What kills me about the turn our government is taking on this stance, is it puts a large part of the industry back in the hands of the cartels. Medical patients will continue to acquire their medication, and cartels look to gain a large part of this market back. Millions of dollars lost from our state budget that could be allocated towards things that matter. As a result CA will continue to close schools, cut jobs, cut state park funding without the millions of dollar generated by the collectives shut down.

    I have a firm belief in the medicinal properties of cannabis. I became a medical marijuana user in order to take myself off the experimental prescription drugs my doctor had me on. Liver killers like depakote, haldol and zyprexa increased my body weight by over 50 pounds, and left my state of mind so hazy, I almost dropped out of school. My social anxiety disorder was heightened, and I barely left the couch, let alone house.

    I switched psychiatrists, explained my problems with the arsenal of prescriptions drugs they kept filtering me through. I mentioned I’ve been able to achieve the same effects with cannabis. I was told by my Doctor, to continue with my self medication through cannabis. I was able to pull my life together school and professionally. Dropped back to my original weight, became more active and gained my life back. I can’t say this is for everyone. My physiological make up is conducive to cannabis. A lot of the prescription meds they tried to keep me on, typically had the opposite or no effect, with heavy side physical and psychological side effects.

    I thank Steve and the guys at Green Mammoth for their compassion over the past year. WE can only hope they leave MLW alone.

    Get involved, Californians For Safe Access!

    http://www.safeaccessnow.org/section.php?id=415

     
  17. glen bob October 25, 2011 at 12:32 pm #

    The closing of the dispenseries feeds right back into the cartels hands……it basically opens a door AGAIN which has finally found a way of slowing closing. If we are ever to be free of the border violance and underground smuggling, murders, and total corrouption of Mexico,, we have to control these issues within our borders. Put the resources towards eradicating Meth….and coke. Allow Medical marijuna

    Personally, this outlet has helped me more than I can really say. I don’t have to worry about the grey market, I have selection and advice. No more looking over my shoulder just so I can use a medication with few side effects.

    I support this outlet…they are providing a very good service. Lets concentrate our efforts on more positive solutions for our community and leave the harmless providers out of the target range.. Thank You

     
    • Ken Warner October 25, 2011 at 3:46 pm #

      “The closing of the dispenseries feeds right back into the cartels hands…”

      The whole “War On Drugs” is nothing more than a price support package for illegal drugs. I’ve said before that I believe the Drug Cartels (if there really is such a thing) contribute to the election campaigns of those candidates who profess the strongest anti-drug message. Getting that kind of person elected is the surest way to keep the price of drugs high by filtering out all the small timers who don’t have the money for the necessary bribes.

      That leaves just a few big time drug dealers with lots of money and drugs to sell at the highest possible price. What ever the market will bear.

      Imagine if any drug was widely available — at the super market or the any liqueur store or gas station. All produced with standard dosing levels by people like J&J or Bayer or Philip Morris. Drugs would be dirt cheap. There would be little or no crime associated with either distribution or procuring.

      The drug cartel wars in Mexico — which kill more people every year than what happens in Iraq — would simply stop.

      Drugs can really destroy some people. Most people use them the way tobacco and alcohol are used. Some people are destroyed by tobacco and alcohol. Prohibition of alcohol produced the same type of crime we see now with the “Drug War”. The greater benefit for the most people would be to simply legalize all drugs and let the individual assume responsibility for his/her own well being just like alcohol and tobacco.

      Don’t we ever learn????

       
  18. upthecreek October 25, 2011 at 1:13 pm #

    “Shame on the feds for there scare tactics.

    REVOLT> Damn the Man, Save Safe Access, Save the Empire. ”

    @ Jack Herer..

    Be careful what you wish for.. It just may come TRUE

    and yes our government is “OUT OF CONTROL”

     
  19. Terribone October 25, 2011 at 3:15 pm #

    As an MMJ patient, I’ve checked out both of these places and was extremely surprised by the high prices — if you can find it on the street, you’ll pay far less. But here’s the kicker: I know of several people who legally grow their own high quality MMJ. When they have a surplus, they are legally allowed to share this with other patients through these two dispensaries, being compensated for their time and materials. It turns out that both establishments mark their medicine up 300-400%!! This is unheard of in the retail world, and certainly in the non-profit, cooperative arena.

    Both owners should be ashamed of their greed and opportunism, and they stand as examples of why the concept of medical marijuana in California is falling apart. Just like the health care industry is reaping record profits, the MMJ industry is following the path of greedy, hyper-capitalist corruption. For all the talk Mr. Klassen has provided us, with his “compassionate concern” for holistic health and self sacrifice, he’s turned out to be just another cog in the industry.

     
    • B October 26, 2011 at 9:38 am #

      300-400% you say! Prove it! Once again this is public record! Go see for yourself…Terribone, you simply cannot make up statistics! If the mark up is 300-400% as you say, then that must mean all medicine is free?
      You must remember these collectives have OVERHEAD! As someone who is familiar with the black market and collectives (and how they work) I know it’s a little cheaper on the black market. That is where non medical folks can go! Has your “dealer” been to college for Cannabis medicine? Does he have an assortment of magnifying glasses? Does he check for powdery mildew and mites? How about pathogens? Does he know that a Sativa is the best choice for migraines and why? I bet not! Is he legal? Have you seen his garden? (most are very unsterile!) Educate yourself! Do some research, and come back with some good ol’ fashioned common sense.

       
      • Terribone October 26, 2011 at 12:04 pm #

        I don’t have to prove it. I can do basic math, though. You, on the other hand, as someone who obviously works in the industry, might do well by disproving what I’ve stated. No? That’s what I thought. The fact that you immediately begin rationalizing the high prices says volumes. And then you’re suggesting that that “dooode” behind the counter has been to college for cannabis? Gimme a break. This is all part of hype to cover what’s basically a legal front for an otherwise black market business.

        And FYI, I don’t have a dealer. I grow my six plants legally and organically (not ‘sterile”, either), under the sun, in rich soil, just as mother nature intended. You show me an indoor, hydroponic grower who doesn’t use pesticides and I’ll eat my hemp hat.

        Grow your own, people, and let these fat cats sell to tourists, their intended market.

         
        • B October 26, 2011 at 8:24 pm #

          First off, OVERHEAD! Something you wouldn’t understand not being educated in the industry. According to your “simple” math- collectives’ purchase a gram for $1 and sell it for $400? Why does my mention of reimbursements speak volumes? You brought it to the forum! I was merely explaining, sorry if you don’t like the answer.

           
          • Rob October 27, 2011 at 9:59 am #

            @B who are you to say who is educated in the industry and who is not?

            You might know something of the industry but you know nothing of what others may know of the industry.

            Gimme a break

             
          • Terribone October 27, 2011 at 11:23 pm #

            B said “According to your “simple” math- collectives’ purchase a gram for $1 and sell it for $400?”

            Um, that would be a markup of 40,000%. You’ve been smoking too much of your own medicine, B. Break out a calculator if you’re having trouble with 3rd grade math.

            Let’s try it this way: buy a gram for $1 and sell for $4 — that would be the 400% I mentioned.

            And yes, I understand overhead. Most retail establishments operate on a markup of around 100%, depending on the industry. And these are for-profit businesses. All of these dispensaries are supposed to be operating as 501(c) non-profit.

             
        • B October 26, 2011 at 9:31 pm #

          …And kudo’s to you for growing your own outdoor, organic medicine legally! Just remember not everyone is capable of that. But if you can by all means do it! Also, the State Vs. Kelly and People Vs. Phomphakdy ruled the limits on prop 215 were unconstitutional…so you can grow more within reason.

           
      • Rob October 26, 2011 at 12:31 pm #

        Cannabis college, magnifying glasses, powdered mildew, mites, pathogens?

        Somehow we all made it though the 60’s without all that stuff and nobody died.

        It’s a weed, give me a break.

         
        • B October 27, 2011 at 9:32 am #

          A weed is a plant who’s purpose has not been discovered! The cannabis plant has flowers or buds and definately has a purpose! Again folks please educate yourslves! Recently a girl in town was hospitalized for eating an edible that was NOT from a collective. If a grower does not flush plants for atleast two weeks before you cook with your medicine…Guess what you’re eating? fertilizers! Sure you can medicate with spider mites, gnats, botrytis, and powdery mildew. That’s the risk you are taking on the “streets”. Powdery Mildew is a penicillin. Therefore if you are allergic to penicillin, you’re going to the hospital! Again educate yourself! do some research! Also, a lot of people lived through the sixties doing dumb things. I prefer harm reduction when available. There was not powdery mildew in the sixties. It was brought to America by a fruit shipment in the early nineties. Look it up! Educate!

           
          • Terribone October 27, 2011 at 11:35 pm #

            If a girl was hospitalized for edibles, I’m sure it had nothing to do with any contamination. You’re an idiot, B. It was because she “overmedicated” and got too high for her comfort. Stop spewing BS, man. Really it doesn’t help.

             
          • Rob October 28, 2011 at 10:14 am #

            @Terribone

            We have more of a chance of getting sick from contaminated cantaloupes.

            With the collectives closing B should be out looking for a job.

             
    • Wayne Deja October 26, 2011 at 5:15 pm #

      Have got to chuckle at some of the posts,the buyers complaining about the dealers charging too much….and making big profits….Welcome to the world of drug dealing!!!!…Do you think the dealers are in it for fun?…Or wanting to “help” out all these “patients” with their health problems?…or in it to make the biggest profit they can?..Not a lot different than buying on the streets…dealers are in it to profit….and be able to afford their own habit.The guy that got busted for dealing in Inyo County a while back….remember him?…The guy that was gonna sue the county,but pled guilty to a lesser charge?….Do you think he was making his money renting out DVD’s,or selling his dope?….If this MMJ thing was on the up and up,the “medicine”would be sold…and controlled,at a clinic,or some type of medical setting doing the distribution.Bottom line is….if you don’t want to pay the high prices,kick the habit.Or take your chances with buying on the street.And another post I got a kick out of…..only marijuana bought off the street will make you lazy,stupid and broke…and will get you high….BUT medical marijuana won’t do that to you…HUH?…

       
  20. MotherNature October 25, 2011 at 8:54 pm #

    This it the best thread I have read here in a long, long time.

    Keep it up and we might change something for the better.

    All I know is that first you’ve got to get mad. You’ve got to say, ‘I’m a HUMAN BEING, Damn it! My life has VALUE!’ So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chair. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, ‘I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!’

    Keep doing this and on election day you might just vote like people.

    Use your brains, don’t let the Mammoth power brokers take control of your mind and body.

    When someone says vote to raise your taxes, think twice. When they do it over and over again in Mammoth and the sheepeople walk into the voting booth and push the button to raise taxes I figure they must be putting something in the water to make people stupid.

    Start filtering your water and do the math.

    All the power brokers = 300.

    Our total voter base=5500.

    Remember, it’s Not just the People Who Vote that Count; It’s the People Who Count the Votes…

    Volunteer to count votes, get all your friends together and TAKE BACK MAMMOTH.

    It can happen in one cycle of the vote.

    You will tell the Chief and Council what to do.

    It’s Natures way.

     
    • Jack Herer October 26, 2011 at 8:01 pm #

      The Police Chief, The Town Council, They support us and arent here to serve the feds interest. We can take care of ourselves.. If the Feds come to town , we can just send the skiing, and pack em in at Motel 6…..

       
    • upthecreek October 27, 2011 at 5:29 pm #

      @MotherNature

      “When someone says vote to raise your taxes, think twice. When they do it over and over again in Mammoth and the sheepeople walk into the voting booth and push the button to raise taxes I figure they must be putting something in the water to make people stupid.

      Start filtering your water and do the math.”

      Good point is Mammoth water district adding Flouride to the water??

      Or is it just the the higher Levels of Arsenic …Above the Drinking Water Standards

       
  21. Eamon October 26, 2011 at 8:01 am #

    The most effective way to stop the supposed “abuse” of people with medical marijuana licenses is to simply Legalize it altogether. The affects of alcoholism is widely known and accepted by even the common person. Those problems do not exist with marijuana users. The prohibition of marijuana started as simply as racist laws against Mexicans in California during the 1930’s….today it’s considered a Schedule 1 drug in the same classification as Heroin…a schedule 1 drug is defined as “having a high potential for abuse, have no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and there is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.” Yet there is an inordinate amount of literature and science (hundreds of years) behind marijuana and its use as well as practical application that doesn’t meet the schedule 1 criteria….the obvious remedy to all the “problems” with “20-somethings having a 215 license when all they have is an ingrown toe” is LEGALIZATION!

     
    • kaat October 26, 2011 at 11:04 am #

      mmj may not be habit-forming and it may not have a high potential for abuse and maybe it should be legalized – but ….

      There is a certain “personality” that wants/needs to “self-medicate” against daily stresses and pressures. There are also large segments of the population that have had past difficulties in their life that haven’t been dealt with and they look for ways to surpress that emotional pain. There are also just plain “addictive personalities” in general that need something to be addictive about. So, in addition to mmj being used to help with physical pain and suffering there is a whole list of psych reasons that could fall under the medical-usage of mmj. As I see it, most of the population in this country should get a card to use mmj!

      So, what to do?

      Do we need everyone to be drunk or high or medicated or overfed to feel “okay”? Maybe in this country we do. Maybe we would then be nicer to each other. Maybe our country would be more productive. Maybe we would then be a healthier nation.

      Just legalizing mmj won’t make everything okay. It will allow those that feel pain (physical and emotional) to be medicated against their difficulties whenever they need it. But is will also open up another avenue to those that want to simply “self-medicate” like they do with drinking and I am not so sure that will be a help for them.

      In the end, as with everything, it’s comes down to person choice. We are all responsible for our choices. If mmj was legalized, each of us would need to choose whether to “medicate” or not.

      And I think what people want is simply that choice – without government interference.

       
      • Jack Herer October 26, 2011 at 7:56 pm #

        Kaat
        Nice Comment. I agree with your thought. There are many reasons people use medication, alcohol and what not.. But it comes down to one thing. If something grows naturally and been around 5000 years It should be our Choice to utilize or not.

         
  22. Dingo October 26, 2011 at 2:03 pm #

    Back when I use to smoke pot the dispensary was located throughout the Ghetto, some rarely closed.

     
    • Wayne Deja October 27, 2011 at 7:21 am #

      Dingo…..rarely closed in the ghetto because if they did,a group of the “gangstas”,with their disableing medical conditions, would break in and burglarize the store with no one there.

       
  23. Jack Herer October 26, 2011 at 7:48 pm #

    Hello Folks of the Eastern Sierra! Hot issue Huh, everyones got alot to say?

    Check out what Obama and California Attorney General Harris have to Say, it spells it out in writing.

    Klassen, Calvert, TOML, Mammoth Police, Mono County Good Work. Stay Open. Keep working together to support and protect safe access. We dont need the Feds here and they dont want us,. They are after Criminals, Gang members , Large scale growers or Distributors?? Are we any of these, I think not!!! These gentelman ( Klassen and Calvert) deserve to be repaid for their initial investment , should be supported and donation prices will surely come down.

    What does Obama Say??

    WASHINGTON — U.S. attorneys have a message for California’s medical marijuana advocates: Don’t blame Barack Obama. After it was announced that the crackdown on medical pot establishments in the Golden State was a collective decision by the four U.S. attorneys in California and not the result of any directive from Washington, spokeswoman Lauren Horwood emphasized that the administration never even green-lighted the ramped-up enforcement actions.
    The only D.C.-based official with whom California U.S. attorneys coordinated, Horwood said, was Deputy Attorney General James Cole, who was chosen by Attorney General Eric Holder, an Obama appointee.
    Read the rest of the article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/obama-administration-medical-marijuana-crackdown-california_n_1033482.html

    What does California Attorney General Harris Have to Say!!

    “Californians overwhelmingly support the compassionate use of medical marijuana for the ill. We should all be troubled, however, by the proliferation of gangs and criminal enterprises that seek to exploit this law by illegally cultivating and trafficking marijuana. While there are definite ambiguities in state law that must be resolved either by the state legislature or the courts, an overly broad federal enforcement campaign will make it more difficult for legitimate patients to access physician-recommended medicine in California. I urge the federal authorities in the state to adhere to the United States Department of Justice’s stated policy and focus their enforcement efforts on ‘significant traffickers of illegal drugs.” California Attorney General Kamala Harris

     
  24. B October 26, 2011 at 8:28 pm #

    Thank you for helping educate the people Jack! Well done.

     
    • B October 27, 2011 at 11:23 am #

      Ok, whomever thumbed down my above comment. I’d love to hear how and why educating the people is worth thumbing down? This is a thought provoking blog! Back your logic or lack thereof up with something other than a click on the red thumb down. Maybe we can all learn something!

       
  25. Compassionate One October 27, 2011 at 11:56 pm #

    What’s a thorack?

     
  26. Wayne Deja October 31, 2011 at 4:38 pm #

    I am not an ignorant inbred Hick, I do have scientific statistics to back up what I say

     
    • Wayne Deja October 31, 2011 at 6:27 pm #

      I did not write the above comment…Whoever is using my name to comment,Benett Kessler has been asked to check the e-mail address as to who is doing it…

       

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