One arrested after Saturday night fights

Multiple fights were reported Saturday night in downtown Bishop and a Bakersfield man was arrested after a large melee that started at McMurry’s tavern and spilled onto Main St.,  Bishop (US Highway 395).

 Calls came into the Bishop Police Department at 11:45 p.m. Sept. 1st with reports dozens of people engaged in fights inside and outside McMurry’s.

BPD officers patrolling downtown Bishop were quickly on scene, and additional units on duty at the Tri-County Fair were dispatched to the area, Bishop Police Public Information Officer Katie Coffman said.

 Coffman said there were reports that anywhere from 20 to 80 people may have been involved in the disturbance, with locals and out-of-town residents involved.

Bishop police arrested Robbie Trevino, age 36, of Bakersfield, on a felony charge of battery causing great bodily injury. One victim was transported to Northern Inyo Hospital.

Five people were detained but not arrested for public intoxication Saturday night, with three of those attending the Tri-County Fair, Coffman said, part of a busy weekend at the so-called “drunk tank.”

 Coffman said a bouncer at McMurry’s used pepper spray during the fighting.

 

62 Responses to One arrested after Saturday night fights

  1. Trouble September 4, 2012 at 3:52 pm #

    Were the Mammoth police back in town?

     
  2. Dingo September 4, 2012 at 5:30 pm #

    I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, alcohol keeps people employed. Cops, hospital staff, lawyers, judges, court workers and a few others I’m sure.
    When was the last time we heard of 20 to 80 potheads who got into a brawl and law enforcement had to be called to restore peace and where individuals had to be taken to the hospital.
    Our society is messed up, and don’t even get me started on prescription drugs.
    There I vented, I feel better now. Damn that alcohol!

     
    • Trouble September 4, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

      Maybe someone should check the facts a little more before sending in the fire marshall. 20 to 80 is a pretty wide guess here. From what I heard there were more cops and fireman there than real people 🙂 May I suggest a bikini lounge in town.

       
      • Facts? (you're asking for it) September 5, 2012 at 9:22 am #

        “Maybe someone should check the facts…”
        great idea, but don’t tell “Big” that.
        He and his alter ego trouble is/are paranoid about facts presented.
        Prefers to live in la-la-land.

         
        • Trouble September 5, 2012 at 9:13 pm #

          Facts- Paranoid? I don’t think I’ve ever shied away from speaking my mind. But I would like to visit la-la-land. You will always sound nuts to me as long as you don’t relize me and Al don’t even know each others real names. I do enjoy hearing what he thinks.

           
  3. John S September 4, 2012 at 6:46 pm #

    Dingo, You my friend are an idiot!! Why would you even need to bring up the fact that, “If 20-80 potheads were fighting.” Come on stick with the post and stop with your 420 out bursts…… Prop 215 didn’t pass last year and it wont next time, give it up.

     
    • Benett Kessler September 4, 2012 at 7:51 pm #

      Please don’t call each other idiots.
      Benett Kessler

       
      • Childish name-calling September 5, 2012 at 5:20 am #

        I’m afraid the childish name-calling that is supposed to the last word or something, is a result of that odd phenomenon that has captured the hearts and minds of too many today – Limbaughism.

        Whenever the word “liberal” is used (which is also supposed to be the defining last word on various topics) this too, is an example of Limbaughism that is dividing the country at the moment.

         
        • Limbaughism on parade September 5, 2012 at 9:00 am #

          Interesting.
          5 “thumbs down” to halting childish name-calling.
          Shows you what types gravitates to formats like this.

           
        • johnjcampnfish September 5, 2012 at 9:46 am #

          Sure, call it “Limbaughism” while ignoring California’s Democrat party chairman, Joun Burton’s calling people he disagrees with Nazis.
          Of course, there are others that would say that making up names like Limbaughism to describe those you disagree with while at the same time accusing them of name calling is what is dividing the country.

           
          • Limbaughism September 6, 2012 at 5:16 am #

            Over the years, [Limbaugh] has endeavored to carry forward the banner of Ronaldus Maximus, which he always credits as ‘Reaganism.’ But as time moves on the memory of Reagan fades. It is Limbaugh’s voice conservatives now identify with. For millions, conservatism is now Limbaughism.

            And it boils down to hurling childish insults, like you will find even on this format.

             
      • Dingo September 6, 2012 at 7:17 am #

        That’s okay Benett, words can’t hurt me, besides I like the attention. I knew I would be kicking up dust with my post.
        Oh, and John S. I will never give up, never. Never surrender!

         
  4. Wayne Deja September 4, 2012 at 6:55 pm #

    ..Now I wonder when someone is gonna say if pot were legal,people would quit drinking alcohol,getting drunk and getting into fights.How much do you want to bet it’s gonna be coming ?…After all,those that smoke pot NEVER drink alcohol….right ?

     
  5. Trouble September 4, 2012 at 8:34 pm #

    Wayne, you my friend are fighting a losing battle. Ever been to McMurry’s . Their parking lot is against Bishop PD’s office. No one is smoking pot outside the police stations window. But they are allowed to drink them selves to death right next store. Prohibition failed before either of our parents were ever born. It will fail agian.

     
  6. bishopite September 4, 2012 at 9:24 pm #

    Are you serious? fights happen in bars since the begining of time,its just something that happens when you mix testostrone & alcohol…Mcmurrys is one of the nicest bars in town,when myself and wife go in there we feel comfortable & welcomed when we walk in the door. this is ludricous how one incident happens in town & the newspapers & reporters help turn it into a whirlwind… thats the way the media feeds the fuel & keeps interest in its rag!! McMurrys,you do a fine job & you still have my patronage!

     
    • Benett Kessler September 5, 2012 at 8:03 am #

      Blog comments may blow things up a bit, but our news story is just the facts.
      Benett Kessler

       
      • bishopite September 5, 2012 at 3:52 pm #

        benett, shouldnt you say that these “facts” are accusations until the whole investigation is complete? just sayin!

         
      • eyewitness September 5, 2012 at 9:50 pm #

        Responsible journalism= getting the facts correct. I am disappointed in you Ms. Kessler, for not researching this story yourself, and going with the statement that the representative from the police department gave out (who was NOT present on the scene) and I know that, because I was there.

        I am a young professional who grew up in Bishop, and I am from a respected local family. I was at McMurry’s that night and witnessed the whole incident. I had taken two of my friends from out of town with me, and we had just ordered our first drink when the fight broke out. First of all, I would estimate there were about 40 people in the bar TOTAL, and the article claims that “20-80 people were involved in the incident.” That is an outrageous and totally false statement. There wasn’t even over 40 people in the bar, most of which were NOT involved in the incident. I would say that there were maybe 10-15 people directly involved in the incident. Many bystanders left the bar before law enforcement even arrived, so I am very confused as to how they came up with that number. A fight broke out between two idiots, and then as a result 1 or 2 side fights began. The staff was super quick to pull the fighting parties outside to attempt to contain the situation. By the time law enforcement arrived, it was about 10 minutes after the staff had the situation under control (maybe if every officer in town was not at the fairgrounds, their response time would have been quicker…the police station is right behind the bar for goodness sake…that does not look good for local law enforcement…they were NOT “quickly on the scene”). The police only arrested one person, and each of the people who fought should have been arrested. The one man that was taken to Northern Inyo had a BROKEN PINKY FINGER…that should not result in front page news.

        This is my hometown, and I am proud to be from Bishop, but sometimes it is truly ridiculous how some stupid thing gets blown out of proportion, just because there is NOTHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT.

        McMurry’s is the only bar in town that I will even go to. I was so excited when a young LOCAL couple, graduates of BUHS, came back to town after school to start their own business. They bought McMurry’s, a run down, dying bar, and completely remodeled it, turning it into a nice bar to go to (I would NEVER go there before they bought it and turned it around). Plus, I happen to know that the owners really support the community. They buy local, support and partner with local businesses, and give donations to charities, including BUHS, their Alma Mater. None of the good that this business or its owners does gets publicized, and it should. I always have a fabulous time when I go to Mcmurry’s, and this fight, caused by some stupid people, should not be a reflection of the bar or its owners. There are bar fights all of the time at other bars, and I have NEVER seen one at McMurry’s until now. Let’s give McMurry’s more credit, and stop running these derogatory stories and FALSE FACTS about this one incident. Seriously Bishop, we need to support each other and not feed into the negativity. McMurry’s is a great place to go, and we should all continue to support it.

        Ms. Kessler, if you would like to interview me or either of my friends, we would be happy to help you get the facts straight. Considering that we were completely sober eyewitnesses, we might be a more accurate source.

         
        • Benett Kessler September 6, 2012 at 10:35 am #

          When a fight breaks out in a bar that, as you say, held 40 people – a fight that moved out onto Main St. – and law enforcement becomes involved, that is news. The public has a right to know how their tax dollars are being spent and what kind of behavior goes on in their town. Bob Todd did research the story. He heard from more than the police, and he did quote their spokesperson. We could say 40 people does lie between 20 and 80. Nevertheless, that was the police statement.

          I did speak to the owner of McMurry’s, but he refused to tell me his side of the story. Instead, he tried to get me not to run the news. One’s good behavior, longevity in town, niceness of the establishment are not factors in news evaluation when a public fight breaks out involving enough people inside and outside the bar to create a concerning situation. It is far better to tell what we can find out than to let the gossip mill fill in the blanks. Any business involved in a reported crime would serve itself well to be forthcoming about what really happened.

          But, once a news media sells out the news for “special people”, the selling out never ends.

          We stand by our story. If you have other factors to add, please call 760-937-3295.

          Benett Kessler

           
          • eyewitness September 6, 2012 at 11:15 am #

            Bottom line is that your facts are incorrect. This story was not adequately researched. I completely understand that it is news, but it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to make sure that the news is ACCURATE. No wonder the owner refused to comment, I wouldn’t trust what you would publish either. I’m very disappointed in your defensive response. 40 people TOTAL in the bar is far different from “20-80 people involved in the incident.” That is so far off, and you can’t even see that. I am probably the only eyewitness you have even talked to, and I added my “factors.” I told you what really happened, and you continued to defend your inaccurate facts. You clearly don’t care about reporting the truth, you just want to put a story out there…totally unprofessional.

             
          • Benett Kessler September 7, 2012 at 8:59 am #

            I care about nothing more than reporting the truth. If you were more interested in the truth,
            you would have taken me up on my offer to call me. 760-937-3295. I will need your real name. Bar patrons are not known for leaving their names and phone numbers at the scene of a bar fight so that later news reporters can call them. If I had been the owner, I definitely would have told my truth to the news. That’s how news works. People can not hide in the shadows with information and blame reporters for not getting the information. We need someone to quote. So, either get up front with your real name and call me – I will gladly report what you say if it appears you really were there – or move on. Browbeating is an unproductive trait that serves no one.
            Benett Kessler

             
          • Trouble September 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm #

            Benett- I’m not try to kiss A right now, but I think you reported the facts as best you could of here. That doesn’t mean I like the police version of the events.

             
        • JeanGenie September 6, 2012 at 11:06 am #

          Eyewitness,
          Rusty’s has changed for the better in the last few years also. I wouldn’t go the Rusty’s or McMurry’s for years because they were both scummy.
          Of course there’s nothing to talk about around here, thats why most people are such a bunch of nasty, gossipy, stab you in the back types, they don’t have enough to do and have less to think about, not to mention they don’t have a lot of brains to think with!

           
        • Trouble September 6, 2012 at 7:53 pm #

          Eyewitness- After reading your first hand report and Benett’s views on this article, it seems to me that the police reporting of what really took place is greatly exaggerated. I’m glad to hear two sides of this story. And for once I can say I like what you and Benett had to say.

          Sadly, we may never hear what happens to any of the people involved because our lovely DA refuses to respect our right to know.

           
          • Big AL September 7, 2012 at 12:48 pm #

            WOW some good posts here … I don’t believe half of what the police say, they are obviously biased in the situation.. what they observed … the fight involving some where 20 to 80 people, that throws a red flag right now for me …
            And the fight had spilled out into the street … could there have been up to 80 people in that little bar? that there were people loitering outside as well .. or was it, that as an eye witness claims, other than the police .. that it was a lot less number of people, and that the the altercation had been suppressed by staff and moved outside, that sounds more likely to me.

            But when you only get one side of the story, you get what you get.

            Seems funny .. that with up to 80 people possibly involved, only one person was arrested. Doesn’t throw a red flag.

            But with Eye witness’ post on this .. it does give us another perspective so now you have another side of it.

            Even if you do post a story like you said Benett, the way it was presented .. with the facts you were given by the police, it leaves a lot of speculation and room for the gossip mill to crank it out just as easily as we see in this case and so many others. Just pointing out what i see of it all.

             
          • Benett Kessler September 7, 2012 at 1:01 pm #

            Maybe so, but when the owner refused to tell me anything about what happened and we don’t
            know who was in the bar at the time – this becomes a difficult story to cover. That’s why it is so important for people to be forthright to the news about what they do know. That’s how a free society and a free press work. We’re willing to tell what we know. Instead of assuming a self-righteous “Press be damned” attitude, why not help us?

            Benett Kessler

             
  7. Mark September 5, 2012 at 6:47 am #

    Nothing good happens after dark.

    Early to bed, early to rise, until I make enough money to do otherwise.

     
  8. Jeremiah's Alter Ego September 5, 2012 at 7:49 am #

    Hey Dingo don’t forget the Morgues, Rehab centers, auto repair shops. And this is socially accepted when getting the munchies and conversation’s to nowhere land is unacceptable? What are you people afraid of that isn’t going on now?
    Stop giving the cops a false sense of accomplishment and at the same time stop wasting resources when the potential of success is a big joke.
    if you want to help the troubled youth you don’t put them in handcuffs and try and scare them with jail or any other threat. If that is your answer then you can imagine that individual will evolve to there surroundings with the real criminals all because the individual had a chemical dependency.
    Its compassion and understanding that can help if that is the objective. I am talking about helping the youth, there is no time to waste on the adults that refuse to get it.

     
  9. ferdinand lopez September 5, 2012 at 9:45 am #

    so if someone was stabbed,would you blame the knifemaker,if they were shot youd blame the gun,think just a little bit.

     
  10. Shorty September 5, 2012 at 11:04 am #

    I am shocked and discusted that someone would go into the best most welcoming bar in town And show such disrespect .. Mcmurrys Sports Bar has always treated everyone with respect … I am a single women and enjoy dancing and socializing with my friends and I have never felt so comfortable and safe at any other bar… The bouncers are friendly and responsible and card everyone who walks thru that door… There have been times when I asked them to keep an eye on me cause of some creeps around and they did just that… This bar is a small tight knit family pretty much … With our community as well … I’m so disturbed by this… Mcmurrys… Stay strong and no worries …

     
    • Society in decline September 6, 2012 at 9:38 am #

      Bars are bars Shorty. The fact that bouncers are required should provide a clue as to what too often occurs when people are in the process of sedating themselves (alcohol consumption).
      Since people will be people, and times the way they are today (some say society is in decline), those creeps you talk about are out and about more than usual.

      Some are walking around just looking for any excuse to do violence.

       
      • Angry rednecks September 11, 2012 at 10:40 am #

        Rednecks do rednecked things.
        With or without alcohol.
        (That is, when they’re NOT listening to their rednecked heroLimbaugh (3 straight hours a day, 5 days a week and reruns on weekends.)

         
  11. Sandy Miller September 5, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    I seen the many many cops flying down main street, blink of a eye and you would of missed them. Almost caused a accident!! I thought to myself…man some one must of died…cruised down the road…nope a bar fight.

     
  12. Jeremiah's Alter Ego September 5, 2012 at 3:18 pm #

    Yeah real big surprise this took place at a bar on a real busy night where individuals embrace the wild wild west. hahaha

    Hey Ferdinand lets think a lil bit more together. Its obvious people need to take responsibility for what they do in life. But here this system a majority of people would agree on a lot of gun control ideas like (stop allowing anybody to buy a gun at gun shows with no background checks, limit the amount of rounds a clip can carry, limit the type of high powered rifle sales going to general public) but since the republican party is in bed with the NRA that is not likely to happen kinda like the republicans admitting to climate change, they would need to give all donations from the Koch bros and big oil industry back since they have been bought out by there best interest which happens to not be the american peoples best interest.

    But if you plan to make there argument like a good lil sheep. remember you are making a argument for those that could care less about you and me. Obviously, or their profits wouldn’t out weigh the majority of what america agrees on (the nation, and not this small rural conservative area).

     
    • Big AL September 5, 2012 at 7:35 pm #

      It’s real easy to blame all of the woes we face today on one party or the other, when in reality both parties, all of us have gotten us to where we are today, some through abusing everything, and others who have let it happen.

      A big part of why we are where we are, is that as Ferdinand say’s people want to blame everyone for their faults plain and simple!

      It had nothing to do with one party or the other, don’t try to blame things like this one one party or the other. Noticed, I didn’t name the party as you did Jeremiah.

      That is one of the biggest ugliest scares that have in the fabric of our society right now, and right now more than any other time … Blame!

      Blame it on the party you don’t like, blame it on liberalism, blame it on conservatism, blame it on you, blame it on those people over there, they F’d everything up, not me!

      It’s not my fault I stabbed that dude, it’s the fault of the knife maker, if they had not made the knife, I wouldn’t have used it to kill someone.

      Not my fault I killed all of those people with the fully automatic rifle that can hold 100 rnd. barrel mag. .. it is the fault of the federal govt. for letting me have it, making it easy for me to get it.

      It’s not my fault at all .. it was that twinkie I ate, made me do it ..

      No one has to face up for anything anymore, because it is OK, we will just blame something or someone else, don’t worry about it … it wasn’t your fault son ..

      If you see someone throw trash out of the window in front of you while driving on a road .. You just try to get them held accountable for it! I will tell you this, they will skate, the cops will not even pursue it, they did not see it, and they are going on hear say, the people will drive off laughing at you, so why do we still have a fine for littering? Maybe just to scare people?

      Just an illustration for how easy it is for people not not even hold themselves accountable for their actions.

      Everyone wants to make a law for this, a law for that, don’t don’t don’t .. and what good does it do? unless you change the person’s thinking .. basic thought process of how they should be and act, a sense of morality, common sense, to know what is right and what is wrong, more laws will not do that, all they serve to do is restrict freedom.

      It will start with the kids, but how will the kids be taught when there are so many messed up adults out there? Have to start somewhere! To make it change.

       
    • Neocon movement September 6, 2012 at 9:02 am #

      Good stuff, Jeremiah.
      11 thumbs down on your thoughts, clearly indicates the amount of far-right types that have permeated (and trying their hardest) to control, this blog.
      The best thing about today’s redneck neocon movement is their willingness to expose themselves for what they are.
      And this exposure makes it easier and easier to deal with the problem.
      From cage-fighting to Limbaugh-loving, today’s rapid communication makes it clear just how far some have sunk in the evolutionary process.
      Mankind has been through this dangerous scenario before and after the noise and confusion, clearer and more compassionate heads prevail. Our duty to society is to call these types on their low behavior and teach our children (the future) that this behavior is unacceptable.

       
      • Trouble September 7, 2012 at 5:32 am #

        Neocon/ Dr.Facts-I would say this site is about far from being a right wing controlled site as it can get. You have called me a Limbaugh- loving republican at least 100 times in the last few months. Most of my family are republicans. I am not. It’s none of your business how I vote. Try focusing on the topic.

        P.S. you are the last person I would take advise on, on how to raise my kids.

         
        • familial September 7, 2012 at 9:43 am #

          There are some communities that do not champion what you might call Ol’ West redneck behavior.
          The “I’ll kick yer (blankin’) ass!” culture seems to be growing by leaps and bounds today. The country is splitting in two as it did during the Civil War era (which was based on racial hatred – but that is another matter.)
          I was raised to recognize the ignorance in redneck behavior. Others appear to think its cool or something. It’s a matter of choice and how somebody was brought up.

           
        • what's in a moniker? September 7, 2012 at 11:25 am #

          No, no, no, “Trouble.” Nice try, but no one has suggested anything about “this site is about far from being a right wing controlled site.”
          Also, please kindly list the 100 times anybody called you “a Limbaugh.”
          and nobody gives a rat’s — how you vote.
          Methinks thou protest too much. Perhaps your “trouble” lies within rather than without.
          Perhaps its not the substance – its the style.

           
          • Trouble September 8, 2012 at 5:31 am #

            Dr.Facts read your statement about four up from here. If you can stay focused that long.

             
          • Trouble having trouble September 8, 2012 at 11:37 am #

            I guess Trouble got a bit unfocused in trying to locate the “at least 100 times anybody, blah, blah, blah…. ”
            Just take your time with this Trouble.
            You can do it if you try hard.
            What ELSE do you have to do?

            : >

             
      • Jeremiah's Alter Ego September 7, 2012 at 12:14 pm #

        Neocon movement the people behind the 6 thumbs down are thinking (don’t you encourage his progressive liberal agenda) lol.
        I do go off subject way to often and will try to keep it relevant to the story.

         
        • Big AL September 8, 2012 at 10:41 pm #

          Well the thumbs down are correct Dr. Facts … sometimes it is 5 times that amount of thumbs down .. I don’t think people even read the crap, they just thumb it down and move on to something worth while reading.

           
          • online therapy September 9, 2012 at 10:55 am #

            Feel better,Big?
            : >

             
          • online therapy September 9, 2012 at 11:33 am #

            I think Big Al is on his way to being the biggest contributor to this blog.
            A record is in the making. Quantity v substance.
            Go, Big, Go!
            Go, Big, Go!

            : >

             
          • Big AL September 9, 2012 at 12:55 pm #

            hehe Dr. Facts .. no I really don’t feel better or worst .. but thank you for asking.

            I think you have me beat on quantity though .. one out of two isn’t bad .. 50% average. I think I have ya on the substance though. hehe But you did post a post i gave a kudos and a thumbs up. Thanks for the support.

             
  13. Redneck September 6, 2012 at 5:34 am #

    Redneck is a derogatory slang term used in reference to poor, uneducated white farmers, especially from the southern United States. It is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks), and white trash (but without the last term’s suggestions of immorality).

    In recent decades, the term has expanded its meaning to refer to bigoted, loutish reactionaries who are opposed to modern ways (liberalism), and has often been used to attack Southern conservatives and racists. At the same time, some whites and uneducated people in rural areas have reclaimed the word, using it with pride and defiance as a self-identifier.

     
    • Trouble September 9, 2012 at 6:37 pm #

      It doesn’t bother me one bit to be called a redneck. So I guess I agree with our last sentence. But I still don’t like Mule Days.

       
      • What is a neocon? September 10, 2012 at 1:28 pm #

        Neoconservatism is a variant of the political ideology of conservatism which combines features of traditional (paleo) conservatism, military interventionism, social conservatism, nationalism, and a qualified endorsement of free markets. Neoconservatism (or new conservatism) is rooted in a group of former liberals, who in the late 1960s, began to embrace nationalism and interventionism in opposition to the rise of the USSR and moved significantly to the right of the spectrum. The term “neoconservative” (sometimes shortened to “neocon”) was initially used in the 1930s, to describe American liberals who criticized communists for following a path closer to Soviet communism

         
        • JeanGenie September 10, 2012 at 6:01 pm #

          who cares Dr Facts

           
          • angry neocons abound September 11, 2012 at 5:17 am #

            looking into a mirror can be startling, JeanGenie
            enlightening as well

             
        • Trouble September 10, 2012 at 9:09 pm #

          Dr.Facts- i can’t make it past your second sentance before I want to vomit any more.

           
          • Limbaughites are here September 11, 2012 at 9:27 am #

            Most who listen to Rush Limbaugh don’t think too much about what he is saying. That’s why they — as a collective — earned the nickname “dittoheads” back in the day when Limbaugh lorded it over both a radio and television empire. But those who do still think while the man drones on (and on) about how liberals and Democrats are driving America down the highway to hell in a truck loaded with handbaskets must have cringed inwardly when Limbaugh started talking about the new line of Triple Double Oreo cookies from Kraft and began insinuating President Obama into the mix. And if most Americans had given Limbaugh the benefit of the doubt over the years concerning the various charges that he might be either a racist or a closeted one, that benefit probably now has been rescinded.

             
          • angst-ridden neocon hero September 11, 2012 at 10:01 am #

            “We’ve arrived at a point where the President of the United States is going to lead a war on traditional marriage.”

            –Rush Limbaugh, on President Obama’s endorsement of gay marriage. Limbaugh’s first, second, third, and fourth wives could not be reached for comment.

             
        • Ken Warner September 11, 2012 at 9:39 am #

          What is a plagiarist?

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

           
          • Why neocons love Limbaugh September 11, 2012 at 10:45 am #

            Neocons racists? Nawwwwwwww !

            On his radio show, Rush Limbaugh continued his race based criticism of President Barack Obama and also criticized Oprah. Here’s what he had to say:

            [Obama] wouldn’t have been voted president if he weren’t black. Somebody asked me over the weekend why does somebody earn a lot of money have a lot of money, because she’s black. It was Oprah. No, it can’t be. Yes, it is. There’s a lot of guilt out there, show we’re not racists, we’ll make this person wealthy and big and famous and so forth…. If Obama weren’t black he’d be a tour guide in Honolulu or he’d be teaching Saul Alinsky constitutional law or lecturing on it in Chicago.

             
      • Big AL September 10, 2012 at 6:49 pm #

        I’m not a Donkey Daze fan either … I might even be a red neck.

         
        • rednecked defined September 11, 2012 at 11:15 am #

          Redneck is a derogatory slang term used in reference to poor, uneducated white farmers, especially from the southern United States. It is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks), and white trash (but without the last term’s suggestions of immorality).

          In recent decades, the term has expanded its meaning to refer to bigoted, loutish reactionaries who are opposed to modern ways, and has often been used to attack Southern conservatives and racists.At the same time, some Southern whites have reclaimed the word, using it with pride and defiance as a self-identifier.

          -wiki

           
  14. Jeremiah's Alter Ego September 6, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    I hear you Big Al, loud and clear. In DC there are a lot of problems but the biggest is money in politics. if you have big donors give to campaigns that have their own special interest and they run millions of dollars of attack and propaganda ads and you have people that don’t look in to the effects of there proposed policy’s only in which ad is most convincing.
    I just can’t help it I believe in fair treatment for all and the idea of tending to Mother Earth and showing a appreciation to Mother Earth for her tending to all of our high maintenance demands. It hard for any of the GOP to address those issues cause of who they take donations from.
    So far left it is for me, and i don’t back down to any type of intimidation or negativity when it comes to how i feel about those big issues.

    Here is my theme of the day, You wanna know what “Trickle Down” really means???

    “WHAT HITS THE FLOOR IS FOR THE DOGS”

     
    • Big AL September 7, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

      Well I wasn’t trying to intimidate .. just posting my view on it .. i totally understand what you say … everyone should be treated equally, but that is a hard thing to come by with us being human .. too much crap gets in the way of equality, just as you say.

       
      • Jeremiah's Alter Ego September 7, 2012 at 1:30 pm #

        You offer good info, I never felt intimidation from your blogs. I was just stating that for those that may want to debate.

         
  15. Trouble September 8, 2012 at 6:12 am #

    When the police close down a bar and a bouncer starts spraying pepper , I’d be out on the street also.

     

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