Mammoth Police use taser to arrest suspect

MLPD 3-23-10Mammoth Police Chief Dan Watson said that an incident on Saturday “could have had tragic results but for the restraint showed by the officers.”  This police press release revealed the string of events:


Stephen Mellor, 43, Mammoth Lakes

On Saturday May 26th, at about 10:30 PM, Mammoth Lakes Police Officers responded to a domestic violence incident at Snowcreek Condos. Mono County Paramedics and two Mammoth PD Officers responded to one condo to contact the victim. The victim was found lying on the floor with lacerations and contusions on her head and face. She said she had been struck multiple times and thrown down the stairs by the suspect,

Stephen Anthony Mellor, age 43. The suspect was in the condo next door. When officers went there, they could hear items being broken inside. Upon making verbal contact with the suspect, he rapidly threw open the front door, extended his right arm and pointed it toward officers. Officers saw something in his hand and believed it to be a weapon. The suspect said he had a gun and said he would kill them. He then threw heavy items including a bicycle lock at officers. Officers believed the suspect may have been suicidal and attempted cause a “suicide by cop.” The suspect ultimately forced officers to deploy a Taser and he was taken into custody without further incident. Stephen Mellor was taken to Mammoth Hospital to be treated for minor self-inflicted wounds, and then to the Mono County jail where he was booked for felony domestic violence. His bail was set at $50,000.


103 Responses to Mammoth Police use taser to arrest suspect

  1. Friar Tuck May 29, 2012 at 8:04 pm #

    Props to the officers involved!

  2. esfotoguy May 29, 2012 at 9:29 pm #

    Good to see MLPD is reverting the old ways….bring on the lawsuits

    • Real Deal May 30, 2012 at 10:56 am #

      If this had been LA the guy would have looked like swiss cheese from all the bullet holes and there would have been a law suit.

      Great job by MLPD officers!

      • Wayne Deja June 3, 2012 at 9:21 pm #

        ….A lawsuit the family would have lost…

  3. Trouble May 30, 2012 at 6:56 am #

    Sounds like this guy got less charges than the kid who hacked his grades.

    • Wayne Deja May 30, 2012 at 6:16 pm #

      Trouble…It wasn’t just HIS grades he was (allegedly) hacking….Other students were paying him in money…or something else…to hack into,and improve their grades too…

      • Trouble June 2, 2012 at 9:52 pm #

        Wayne- he is a sophomore in high school. How much common sense did you have back then? I say it again, this kid should have been sent to the principles office. Not jail. I bet if you had a teenager right now you would be singing a different tune.

        • Big AL June 3, 2012 at 8:11 pm #

          I’m with you on this one Trouble, who has a lot of common sense at that age, hell a lot of grown adults don’t even have it still!

          I remember getting my butt whapped with a big paddle with holes in it for doing things wrong. I never did what I did wrong again, and it only took a few times of that for me know I had to get smarter about it lol.

          Everyone wants to treat kids like criminals now days, call the police, have an officer at school .. etc etc ..

          I don’t really abdicate corporal punishment in schools, but I don’t endorse cops being involved in a lof of things that happen at school .. what ever happened to calling the parents first and let them know what’s going on.

          Oh wait .. society has taken our kids over, they do not belong to us, we can’t even punish them mentally or physically. And … there’s a difference between abuse and punishment.

  4. john May 30, 2012 at 9:52 am #

    If he really wanted to commit suicide,he should have crossed 203 at the crosswalk in front of the Post Office.

  5. dean May 30, 2012 at 11:12 am #

    Many kudos to MLPD; many officers would opened fire when the guy threw open the door and moved his right arm aggressively after claiming to be armed.

    Thanks for doing the right thing and getting this guy to jail in one piece.

    • SierraFan June 1, 2012 at 10:09 am #

      For hitting a woman, the guy should have been hit with the butt of the gun, tossed down the same stairs and kick in the A??….Although not legal but what the heck! Let the guy feel what the girl felt!!!!

      • Reality Check June 2, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

        Sierra Fan, I guess that is why you are not a cop.

        • Wayne Deja June 2, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

          Reality check…Are you a cop ?…If you were a cop,what would you do if you were called to a scene,found a victim beat up and thrown down a flight of stairs,and some creep(allegedly) pointed his hand at you saying he had a gun and was going to kill you ? Would you turn around and walk away…What would YOU have done if you were the one responding to this call ?

          • Big AL June 2, 2012 at 9:03 pm #

            Turn around and walk away? … really?

          • Reality Check June 2, 2012 at 11:19 pm #

            Call the medics for the victim and arrest the suspect if he was still around using only that force that is necessary to effect the arrest.

            Pretty simple. It’s only on TV that the cops shoot so many suspects.

            Wayne, TV isn’t real. Somebody should have told you.

        • Reality Check June 2, 2012 at 11:26 pm #

          Sierra Fan: Beating prisoners is how they do it in third world countries. We have the rule of law here to protect people who may initially look guilty upon arrival. Shooting people that piss the authorites off is why we had a revolution. Like in Boston.

          • SierraFan June 5, 2012 at 9:29 am #

            Reality check,

            You right and I do know the law and follow it, innocent until proven guilty! Law aside, it sure would be nice to see him with the bumps and bruises rather than the probably much weaker or powerful woman. My comments are for the hypothetical not actual. Even if she was beating him, you walk away until things cool off and get help from a close friend, family or the law. I know a few women that were abused like that and the lasting effects are life long. My guess is if someone was beating your daughter, wife, Mom you might just sit back and sat please stop???

          • JeanGenie June 5, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

            Welcome to the third world of Inyo. They might be afraid to shoot you but they’ll certainly do at least some arm-twisting, and they aren’t afraid to beat the people in jail. Too many Inyo County Sheriff’s don’t care if you’re guilty or innocent, as long as they can have someone to bully!

        • Wayne Deja June 3, 2012 at 6:45 pm #

          Reality Check…..You get real personal,even though you know nothing about me….I’ve never “watched” a minute of any of those TV law and order type shows you mention,or any of those phoney reality justice things they got now.By the way you are posting,sounds to me like your the type that never wants to blame a suspect…always defending..always an excuse….Maybe you know this guy,but no matter how you try to spin it,whether he was drunk or not,he(allegedly) acted like a dope,and if he is to continue his type of behavior..beating on women…. and especially threatening officers,next time probably won’t turn out so well for him….and no one to blame but himself if it does.

          • Big AL June 4, 2012 at 6:30 pm #

            yeah you’re right Wayne .. he will lose eventually .. some people just don’t get it.

      • Big AL June 2, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

        Any man that does that to a woman is no man!

        • Cycle of Abuse - Male and Female June 3, 2012 at 7:33 am #

          There are violent people in relationships of both sexes. Some couples get off on this sort of activity and probably grew up witnessing the cycle of abuse.
          Though Big Al means well in a manly-man sort of way, there are unfortunately two sides to the story in violent relationships.Cops see this sad behavior all the time.

          • Big AL June 3, 2012 at 8:26 pm #

            Cycle I mean what I say … it is true .. any man that beats on a woman is no man! I don’t tolerate any man who beats women.
            If a woman is beating on you, you have to to what you need to do .. but you don’t have to hit back, to defend yourself! I’m speaking of men who will beat women period.

            And you’re right, there are two sides to every story. And yes it is sad to see.

  6. Wayne Deja May 30, 2012 at 2:53 pm #

    $50,000 bail……He’ll be out and back walking the streets…or tearing up another condo…in Mammoth Lakes in a heartbeat…if he ain’t out already, visiting his lawyer and planning a lawsuit.If he (allegedly)threw the victim down a flight of stairs,he should have been charged with more than just a domestic violence charge….maybe something like attempted murder.

    • Reality Check June 2, 2012 at 12:39 pm #

      Wayne, I guess that is why you are not a cop or a DA. Get yourself a Penal Code and read what the elements of these crimes are. If you still don’t get it, read the Califirnia Jury Instructions on these crimes.

      • Wayne Deja June 2, 2012 at 2:36 pm #

        Reality Check….If I were a cop,or if this took place in another County…or as Jose chavez stated…Kern County…(remember the creep a few years ago that kidnapped the 2 girls from Quartz Hill and was “apprehended” in White Blanket Reservation near Lake Isabella ?.if not,google how that one turned out for for that guy ),once THIS creep (allegedly) pointed his hand at officers saying he had a gun and was going to kill them,and then proceded to throw a weapon at the officers,it wouldn’t have been a taser he would have been shot with…. would’ve been more like a .40 hollow point….at body mass…Would have been no need to be setting anytype of bail.

        • Reality Check June 2, 2012 at 10:55 pm #

          Wayne, you sure have a lot of “I would’ve” for someone who was not there and has no law enforcement training other than what you see on TV. The officers made a split second decision with about two seconds of rapid data download. This is what they are trained to do in many role player/scenario training session throughout their careers.

          Often people do some incredible stupid things while under the influence. The majority of the time they are safely arrested and in addition to jail time are put on probation and given mandatory counseling. Many never make that mistake again and become productive citizens.

          I bet if this guy was your relative and that you had never seen out of control, and the cops gunned him down while unarmed, you would be screaming that the cops murdered him and you would be giving his photo to the press of his high school graduation.

          Don’t quit your day job!

        • Jon Boyer June 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm #

          Wayne (and others),

          It’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and talk about shooting somebody. It’s much harder to actually pull the trigger when confronted with the real thing…if you haven’t been there, it’s virtually impossible to understand just how hard. Beyond that, it’s equally impossible to understand the emotional and psychological spinoffs after the trigger has been pulled.

          Don’t ever second guess the actions of these officers until you have walked in their shoes. And for your mental well being, I sincerly hope that never happens.

          • Big AL June 5, 2012 at 9:43 pm #

            Amen Jon

      • Big Rick O'Brien June 2, 2012 at 9:30 pm #

        Reality…just where exactly is (Califirnia)

        • Reality Check June 3, 2012 at 5:01 pm #

          It’s here but with an “O”

        • Big AL June 5, 2012 at 9:42 pm #

          With a big O Rick lol

      • Wayne Deja June 2, 2012 at 10:33 pm #

        OK,Mr.”Reality Check”…I did just what you said to do…Now maybe I’m wrong here,but if someone(allegedly) throws another person down a flight of stairs,in my book it could be seen as attempting to kill that person.Or maybe you,or some sleazy defense lawyer would try to spin it as like maybe showing that person some type of affection…

        • Wayne Deja June 2, 2012 at 10:39 pm #

          …and maybe should add,if I were a D.A.,charge the attempted murder,with lesser-included charges….and get a whole lot of females on the jury…..and see what happens…

          • Reality Check June 3, 2012 at 5:04 pm #

            The only way you could become a DA is stop watching TV and go to Law School.

        • Reality Check June 3, 2012 at 5:03 pm #

          That would be 245 PC which is assault that could cause GBI. It would not fit 664/187 PC at all and would not be charged.

        • Big AL June 3, 2012 at 8:41 pm #

          C’mon Wayne .. that’s not what he’s saying .. all this crap being thrown around over this article, like other articles here.

          The cops showed restraint and didn’t just kill the guy, with another recent article, the same sort of stuff was going on there, about the Deputy that shot some gal by mistake. hat cop, wasa low life with a number of people here, when it pretty much came out that he shot her mistakenly everyone one shut up about it, but at first it was like he busted in and blew this girl away.

          Everyone would have been shouting the same thing if these trigger happy MLPD cops had just blasted this guy.

          I think they did pretty good with all of the adrenaline pumping and weapons drawn.

          That is kind of the jist of what reality is saying so get off your high horse already. Adrenaline is a very powerful thing to control in a crisis.

    • Big AL June 2, 2012 at 2:32 pm #

      Civil charges Wayne, but then how ya gonna squeeze blood out of a turnip?

  7. jose chavez June 2, 2012 at 9:58 am #

    props to MLPD. if this guy live in “killer” Kern County, he would have been shot as soon as he moved a finger towards the officers….and guess what, no lawsuit……all shootings in kern county have been ruled justified…..

  8. jose chavez June 2, 2012 at 10:00 am #

    define ” suicide by cop?”

    • Wayne Deja June 2, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

      jose…I think “suicide by cop” means if one is stupid enough to point his arm at a police officer after they are called out to a domestic call and say you have a gun and plan to kill them..most of the time the officers might see that as a reason to draw their weapon and shoot.

  9. Reality Check June 2, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

    Jose: The suspect wants to die but is too chicken to kill himself. He then provokes the cops, like pointing a gun at them or charging them with a knife so that the cops have no other choice than to shoot him. That is suicide by cop.

  10. Trouble June 3, 2012 at 6:49 am #

    I think the cops should have sent him down the stairs just like he did the girl. Then helped him up with a baseball bat. Some people have it coming.

    • Wayne Deja June 3, 2012 at 7:00 pm #

      Trouble…Would be a better Country now if that were allowed…My bet is this wasn’t the first time this guy was involved in domestic abuse,and problems with the law…But the way things are nowdays,before someone is held accountable for what they do..without someone defending their actions….they got to commit a murder…and even then someone is there to make excuses.Something I remember in that kidnapping I had mentioned in Quartz Hill,after the incident where the perpetrator was shot and killed,and the two victims rescued,in an interview about what took place,the Kern County Chief of Police said “At least we don’t have to worry about rehabilitating this guy.”….so true.

      • Big AL June 4, 2012 at 6:23 pm #

        You mean the Kern County Sheriff, yeah I remember that remark. .. so in doing that, where is the justice? How do you justify violence in retaliation for violence in this action?

        The law did what it was required to do, in the name of justice. It would have been wrong for the officers to take the law into their own hands and mete out street justice.

        Ask Rodney King about that, he may have had a lot coming to him, but that wasn’t deserved especially coming from officers of the law.

        Our judiciary system is not perfect, but it is the best we have, and there is so much wrong with it .. because of human involvement, people screw everything up we get involved with.

        and the biggest problem is .. the system is getting overwhelmed, and you’re right Wayne, there’s no accountability for people.

        • Trouble June 5, 2012 at 4:57 pm #

          Big Al- I agree with you, but I still like my comment.

          • Big AL June 5, 2012 at 9:30 pm #

            LOL Trouble ok … only you .. and that’s not meant badly

  11. jose chavez June 4, 2012 at 6:07 am #

    thanks for the clarefication…..oh , and like my ‘ol teacher, Mr.Kenney said once….when a ganster kills another ganster, its calle homie-side…..ok bad joke….

  12. sierragrl June 4, 2012 at 11:28 am #

    I’d like to give MLPD a big KUDO for their actions in dealing with this person. I also want to say that, had they shot and killed him instead, I still would be supporting their actions…If anyone points their hand at a LEO and says they have a gun, any prudent officer may fire at them. That’s just a potential consequence of their action and to be expected and understood. While I’m not always a fan of our local officers, there is no question that they have a tough job.

    • SierraFan June 5, 2012 at 9:35 am #

      Right on Sierragrl!

      • Just the facts June 5, 2012 at 6:54 pm #

        Couldn’t agree with you more, sierragrl. The police force in Mammoth has never been better. Police Chief Dan Watson should be commended for an excellent job. A true professional and Mammoth Lakes is oh, so fortunate to have him.
        Whatever he is making – it isn’t enough.

        • Rob June 6, 2012 at 6:35 am #

          So anytime a public servant does what is expected of them you want to give them a raise?

          I say give him a pat on the back, tell him we appreciate his efforts, then tell him to get back to work. .

  13. Poltical Climate June 4, 2012 at 2:54 pm #

    Mammoth Lakes is not Los Angeles. It never will be. The fear of police brutality, corruption, etc.,taking over this tiny mountain paradise is a by-product of the angst-ridden, foam-at-the-mouth misguided anti-authority political extremists that listen to too much talk-radio and read too many Ann Coulter books. I’ve never seen so much negativity and polarization in my life, and it’s all politically based.
    To give an example, here are some quotes from one popular Neoconservative (which bears no resemblance to our father’s or grandfather’s brand of conservatism) Ann Coulter:

    “This book is about liberals and all their little tricks. One of their tricks is their hegemonic control of the media, which is why TV stations like Fox News, the Internet, talk radio and books are terrifying to liberals, it allows conservatives to communicate with their home planet.”
    “I prefer invective to engagement”
    “Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don’t hate America like liberals do. They don’t have the energy. If they had that much energy, they’d have indoor plumbing by now.”
    “The good part of being a Democrat is that you can commit crimes, sell out your base, bomb foreigners, and rape women, and the Democratic faithful will still think you’re the greatest.”

    • Ken Warner June 4, 2012 at 4:02 pm #

      The only difference between Coulter and a barking mad bag lady screeching on a street corner is the makeup and expensive clothes.

      • Wayne Deja June 4, 2012 at 7:30 pm #

        .Ken…and the bag lady probably has nicer legs.

      • kaat June 4, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

        Ken – open your eyes!, expand your mind – liberals are afraid and annoyed at anyone who calls them out on their “agenda” (note all your responses on this website to anyone that doesn’t think like you)….they (and you) don’t like being questioned about their beliefs and methods…. b/c they (and you) think they are the only ones who are “correct” in their thinking.

        It all started with Obama and his dismissive stance of anyone who disagreed with him, calling them “silly” and their opposing ideas “silly” (what grown man uses that word anyway!) – and all his supporters took up that attitude against the opposition too. Dig up the tv interviews of his last “Yes we can” adventure…..that was the beginning of this current deep right/left divide in our country…..Mr. O has become the great divider….so, indeed…..”yes we can” divide our country….a true success on his part! Four more years of “yes we can” and we finally become the Divided States of America!

        • Ken Warner June 4, 2012 at 10:58 pm #

          I wonder who you are talking about? It sounds like you are describing every right wing “pundit” and talking head in every media venue that exists.

          Blame others for what you yourself do — the right wing credo…..

        • Trouble June 5, 2012 at 11:52 am #

          Kaat- it’s hard believe you think the liberals are the ones running in fear in this state. They hold every major office and are likely to win more today. You may want to post your comments on the next time.

        • sierragrl June 5, 2012 at 1:23 pm #

          LOL….That’s exactly what I would say about conservatives! Just switch the word liberal with conservatives and Obama with republicans….you think we’d all be smart enough to understand this.

    • Tourbillon June 4, 2012 at 4:09 pm #

      We’re all grateful for your attempt to alleviate the polarization you deplore by thoughtfully referring to “foam-at-the-mouth misguided anti-authority political extremists”, according to your post, all on the Right of the political spectrum. Who knew? I’m sure your measured persuasion will work wonders for fostering civility.

      • John Barton June 5, 2012 at 10:42 am #

        Thanks Tourbillon for more eloquently stating what I was trying to get across!

  14. Limbaughism on the move June 4, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

    The far-right crazies have found what they think is another vehicle to destroy the liberals (aka Democrats) in everything .
    And it is this blog.
    They love to reboot, revote and tell each other things like, “We got that Kessler!” We got that liberal! We’re #1! We’re #1.
    They are a sad and dying breed who would be better off wrapping their lips around the nearest exhaust tailpipe rather than attempt anything that resembles civility.

    • Dave June 5, 2012 at 6:29 am #

      The hypocrisy and cowardice of these posts do not promote your points or cause, whatever that might be. It appears the majority of the readers feel your should move on, get a job, get a life, go volunteer somewhere, go bend someone’s ear who you think gives a damn or find a friend. I’m sure the latter will be the most difficult.

  15. Stop the Liberal hate June 4, 2012 at 10:25 pm #

    Bennett, I am surprised you allow such hate talk on you forum… You for one on several occasions have said you want a civil forum. It is obvious that as long as the hate talk it tilted in one direction you ok with it. I can smell the fear oozing from those who are bashing the Right.

    • Reality Check June 5, 2012 at 4:51 pm #

      It’s called free speech. 1st amendment.

    • Where the hatred started June 5, 2012 at 6:21 pm #

      Does the Right really believe the Left will stand still and take this sort of thing forever?
      Especially in an election year?

    • Ken Warner June 5, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

      The right wing has created a golem of hatred and now it’s turned back on it’s creators and they are terrified of the demon they’ve unleashed because all they have is bluster and false words.

      • Terry June 6, 2012 at 2:03 pm #

        Ken- Thanks for finally ditching the “Just the facts” moniker and numerous others and using your real name at least on this one post.

  16. Ed Shutlz is a fat Pig June 5, 2012 at 8:42 pm #

    Is that why the Right’s voice gets supressed on Sierra Wave. Bennet talks about keeping things civil but only enforces it on Conservative comments.

    • Benett Kessler June 6, 2012 at 9:16 am #

      This is the last rude comment of yours I will post. No, we do not trash conservative comments. The only comments that get trashed are the truly mean, and there are many squeakers on that one, and the libelous. Benett Kessler

    • Jon Boyer June 6, 2012 at 11:30 am #


      Not true! I am so conservative as to have made John Wayne look like a moderate yet I have never had any of my comments supressed by BK.

      I have known her for over 25 years and maintained a professional relationship with her for 20 of those years. Never in that time has she given even the slightest hint that I not be allowed my opinions and has always published them verbatum.

  17. Psych 101 June 6, 2012 at 9:54 am #

    A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in “fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity”.
    As if that was not enough to get Republican blood boiling, the report’s four authors linked Hitler, Mussolini, Ronald Reagan and the rightwing talkshow host, Rush Limbaugh, arguing they all suffered from the same affliction.

    All of them “preached a return to an idealised past and condoned inequality”.

    Republicans are demanding to know why the psychologists behind the report, Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition, received $1.2m in public funds for their research from the National Science Foundation and the National Institutes of Health.

    The authors also peer into the psyche of President George Bush, who turns out to be a textbook case. The telltale signs are his preference for moral certainty and frequently expressed dislike of nuance.

    “This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and stereotypes,” the authors argue in the Psychological Bulletin.

    One of the psychologists behind the study, Jack Glaser, said the aversion to shades of grey and the need for “closure” could explain the fact that the Bush administration ignored intelligence that contradicted its beliefs about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.

    The authors, presumably aware of the outrage they were likely to trigger, added a disclaimer that their study “does not mean that conservatism is pathological or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false”.

    Another author, Arie Kruglanski, of the University of Maryland, said he had received hate mail since the article was published, but he insisted that the study “is not critical of conservatives at all”. “The variables we talk about are general human dimensions,” he said. “These are the same dimensions that contribute to loyalty and commitment to the group. Liberals might be less intolerant of ambiguity, but they may be less decisive, less committed, less loyal.”

    But what drives the psychologists? George Will, a Washington Post columnist who has long suffered from ingrained conservatism, noted, tartly: “The professors have ideas; the rest of us have emanations of our psychological needs and neuroses.”

    • Benett Kessler June 6, 2012 at 11:51 am #

      What’s the name of this report?

      • Ed Shultz is a fat pig June 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm #

        So what is the point.

        Here is a study that stats Liberalism is a Mental Disorder…

        Here is another one stating that Liberals are Mentally Ill.

        Here is a short video to help you liberals understand what your mental illness is.

        • Ken Warner June 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm #

          I thought Ann Coulter had made the definitive report on liberals in her body of work.

        • Just the facts June 10, 2012 at 12:24 pm #

          Dear” Ed Shultz is a fat pig”,
          Many thanks for your rebuttle re: the liberal v conservatism ongoing issue.
          But I am more comfortable trusting the findings of the four revered psychologistst whose conclusions were published in The American Psychological Association’s paper documenting their findings of what makes a conservative mind tick, vs that of one private practice doctor who quite frankly cannot be differentiated from the usual style of a Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Fox News, et. al. who have found a way to make a living demonizing liberals (aka Democrats).

          ps – the thumbs down on this format is expected (as mentioneD in the above American Psychological Associations paper) supports the finding of the group think mentality.

          • Big AL June 10, 2012 at 5:29 pm #

            Ps .. Dr. Facts .. the thumbs down has nothing to do with a psychological report .. rather it has to do with the Fact, that people see right through your rhetoric by now, and I would suspect, from the beginning …

            I wouldn’t put my money on a group of psychologist either .. look how much modern psychology has messed up so many people now days.

            Can’t wait to hear what BS you will come up with next, frankly, it is getting pretty entertaining to read, and fun to mess with you about it.

    • sierragrl June 6, 2012 at 1:36 pm #

      sorry, but it has nothing to do with neuroses…its called fearmongering and they’re doing it for a purpose…nothing irrational about that, just unethical in my book. You could say they are playing on other people’s neuroses (is that plural?). But really, it’s just playing on people’s fear of things that are different and of losing what they have.

    • Tourbillon June 6, 2012 at 2:05 pm #

      “Fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity”. Who knew that the civil service, our universities, and the mainstream media employed only conservatives? Doesn’t seem very fair to liberals to me.

    • Gazoo June 6, 2012 at 3:53 pm #

      Dear Psych101:

      There once was a shepherd boy who was bored as he sat on the hillside watching the village sheep. To amuse himself he took a great breath and sang out, “Wolf! Wolf! The Wolf is chasing the sheep!”

      The villagers came running up the hill to help the boy drive the wolf away. But when they arrived at the top of the hill, they found no wolf. The boy laughed at the sight of their angry faces.

      “Don’t cry ‘wolf’, shepherd boy,” said the villagers, “when there’s no wolf!” They went grumbling back down the hill.

      Later, the boy sang out again, “Wolf! Wolf! The wolf is chasing the sheep!” To his naughty delight, he watched the villagers run up the hill to help him drive the wolf away.

      When the villagers saw no wolf they sternly said, “Save your frightened song for when there is really something wrong! Don’t cry ‘wolf’ when there is NO wolf!”

      But the boy just grinned and watched them go grumbling down the hill once more.

      Later, he saw a REAL wolf prowling about his flock. Alarmed, he leaped to his feet and sang out as loudly as he could, “Wolf! Wolf!”

      But the villagers thought he was trying to fool them again, and so they didn’t come.

      At sunset, everyone wondered why the shepherd boy hadn’t returned to the village with their sheep. They went up the hill to find the boy. They found him weeping.

      “There really was a wolf here! The flock has scattered! I cried out, “Wolf!” Why didn’t you come?”

      An old man tried to comfort the boy as they walked back to the village.

      “We’ll help you look for the lost sheep in the morning,” he said, putting his arm around the youth, “Nobody believes you now…even if you would the truth!”

  18. Conservative king June 6, 2012 at 12:13 pm #

    Members of the modern American conservative movement (which is nothing at all like our father’s or grandfather’s brand of conservatism) identify and communicate with each other in one way and one way only. Nasty, snarling and mean-spirited.

    And of course, nobody listens to conservative guru Rush Limbaugh. : >

  19. A Secret June 6, 2012 at 12:33 pm #

    Don’t dare tell one of our resident neocons kaat the majority of American citizens polled recently favor one of the neocon’s pet hate-producers – gay marriage.

    Why don’t today’s neocons understand what “live-and-let-live” means?
    Why must they always pass judgement?
    What are they so afraid of?

  20. Tim June 6, 2012 at 2:09 pm #

    Bennett, This goes way back to July of 2003. Below is the link to the report

  21. Nancy Tucker Baker June 6, 2012 at 2:24 pm #

    How did a factual account of alleged criminal activity, with a consequent arrest, become a forum of hate, including attacks against conservatives AND President Obama??

  22. Ed Shutlz is a fat Pig June 6, 2012 at 3:18 pm #

    It all started with the Unhappy and Hateful person, Just the Facts.

  23. Just the facts June 7, 2012 at 5:28 am #

    In all sincerity it seems to me some of the angriest our posters living in the very live-and-let live state of California, might find some peace and happiness in Utah.

  24. Just the facts June 7, 2012 at 5:47 am #

    Seems to me, the most rabid on the Right pundits really took off and started their “We’re the only true Americans!” war cry during the Bush years where the rush to war based on false intelligence (no WMDs in Iraq) not only resulted in the slaughter of innocent civilians (women and children) during the Shock and Aweing of Baghdad, but also started the bankruption of the U.S. (that continues to this day) trying to pay for that mistake. The only people that benefitted: Dick and Lynne Cheney, former CEO’s of defense contractors Halliburton and Lockheed Martin. Mere coincidence? It’s your call. Hope to never find myself placing party loyalty before the murdering of civilians to “shock and awe” a tyrant into submission.

  25. Just the facts June 7, 2012 at 9:33 am #

    These are clearly not the best of times for Tea Party people, conservative guru Rush Limbaugh fans, and other rabble-rousers like Glenn Beck (who has been banished to internet hate-mongering).
    They are all being exposed for what they are.

    • NewEra June 7, 2012 at 3:32 pm #

      I agree with your Facts, it seems the same 5 fans that dislike your last three posts, just dont like anything you say.
      In the last administration democrats were able to come together with repubs to get stuff done, but here in this admin. we arnt seeing that from the repubs when the tables are turned. they are willing to say no deal for 4 years and act like its only the presidents fault, so they can be in the white house with there already proven failed policies. but of course there policies dont fail them. they fail us!
      They can say no deal and not care what kind of affects it has on us cause in reality it has no affect on them.
      Republicans and Demos make me sick but right now its the repubs that are holding up the show!
      feel me in give y’all, give me some of your insight and I will give it back!

      • Just the facts June 7, 2012 at 5:07 pm #

        According to the Psychologists report re: a study of conservatism as posted on this blog, It’s entirely understandable that this type has difficulty or flat out rejects information they don’t agree with. Some become so befuddled and enraged, that instead of offering any kind of coherent and rational rebuttle, they can only add a thumbs up or thumbs down to the issue or posting. This is comical, as one person can re-boot and “run up the score” all day long assuming this is the end of the story or something. But this behavior is also examined in the study and to be expected. There are two Washington insiders who have written an excellent book on how the Republicans (as you have also noted) in today’s Senate are completely stifling everything their party does not come up with. So, where does today’s polarization originate from? You make the call.

    • Ken Warner June 7, 2012 at 5:13 pm #

      Any of you neocons have a problem with Just the facts postings, give me a call. I’m in Mammoth! Thanks for drinking the KoolAid!

    • Trouble June 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm #

      Just the facts- in case you wonder why I think you get so many negatives ,it’s because you call everybody a Tea Party conservative that doesn’t agree with you. I am no fan of the tea party and I am liberal on a lot of major issues. I don’t agree with liberals on gun control at all, but feel I have to vote that way most of the time due to the extreme rights effects on my lively hood. Please stop being so anal.

  26. esfotoguy June 7, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    who are you rambling to?

    • Big AL June 7, 2012 at 11:16 pm #

      My insight is that is is all a load of crap . now different from the past, and it won’t change anytime too soon, no matter how you try to spread it out, it’s still a big heap of crap. no matter who holds what up.

      And all of the rhetoric, just this fan’s insight.

  27. Conservatives are a hoot! June 7, 2012 at 6:45 pm #

    A new study published in the American Sociological Review found today’s conservatives have less trust in science than the conservatives of the mid-1970s.

    Of course they do, when scientists go around saying crazy things like a pound of feathers weighs the same as a pound of gold.

    Maybe science should go back to bringing us less of the AIDS and climate change, and more of the polio vaccines and atom bombs.

    The saddest part is they’ll never even believe this study.

  28. Big AL June 7, 2012 at 11:19 pm #

    I think some people need to stay out of politics, it is unbecoming of them. A lot of people that stick their noses in it, or step in it .. make me steer clear of it.

  29. NewEra June 8, 2012 at 9:29 am #

    I have the right just as well as the rest of you to ramble on too no where land.

    • Big AL June 9, 2012 at 8:34 pm #

      Who said you didn’t NewEra, get over it already. you can jump in here, but if I don’t agree with your point of view I have the right to disagree … lol .. you can disagree with me. Have fun!

      • NewEra June 11, 2012 at 7:55 am #

        I do have fun with this. I dont do Facebook anymore its too much me, me, me, me, and look at how awesome I am, and not enough real debates on real topics like ths site. Thanks BK!
        Also it cracks me up when so many of you are quick to paste a link of anything to prove your point, Information sharing is awesome, But I dont see most people becoming believers so easy.
        It will be hard for me to stay out of politics when I do give a damn, especially when a decision up top can effect those around me down here.
        For a example:

        If you dont want to read it, he is proposing to cut BIA funding and Cut IHS funding in half, which would cripple some tribes. However any of you may feel about this, thankfully President Barack Obama cut that Idea down for now!

        OBAMA 2012!!!


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