RE: White Mountain Wild Mustangs Dear Sirs: I am a local citizen and representative for the American Wild Horse Preservation. Please help save our local mustangs and let them keep their rightfully deserved homes in the White Mountains! I have driven back and forth from Las Vegas, NV, to visit my relatives, there, for years and know there is plenty of room for these horses in that mountain range and I have never seen a one!
I have seen a few cattle, but, not too many. There is definitley room for them out there. There is no room for the privately owned cattle that destroy our land, though, in my opinion. I understand that in the USFS meeting for changes agenda, coming up at the end of this month, that there is not even a mention about our White Mountain Mustangs.
These noble creatures desperately need their rightful homes re-established and increased from 75 to 150 horses, per acre. It is at least what these noble creatures deserve! Endangering any of our animals in this world is only the most obvious conclusion as to what our extinction will some day become. Please put the Wild Mustangs of the White Mountains in your meeting minutes and save them from slaughterhouses. These beautiful animals need our help, right now. Please, please be part of this urgent preservation, immediately. Your attention to this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Sincerely, Debbe L’Angelle, Mammoth Lakes
For those that like horse slaughter is a humane end please read this:
http://americansagainsthorseslaughter.wordpress.com/information-sheets/horse-slaughter-background-history/
For those of you that believe mustangs do not go to slaughter read this:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-wild-horses-20130619-dto,0,1687981.htmlstory#axzz2s2pxpxwJ and http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/14/17708998-the-case-of-the-missing-mustangs-what-happened-to-1700-wild-horses?lite and http://www.propublica.org/article/missing-what-happened-to-wild-horses-tom-davis-bought-from-the-govt
If you think the horses are doing all the damage read this:
http://www.thecloudfoundation.org/reading-room-faq-s-articles/public-lands-grazing
Happy reading!
We kill other humans in war. We kill people who have inappropriately killed. We kill cows, chickens and pigs for food. We kill the dog who has bitten someone. We kill ideas that threaten us. Yet we cling to the last thread of the American West we destroyed. We are… Read more »
But it’s ok to kill the Trout ??
So how many of you that want to save the horses, want to eliminate the Trout because they also impact the environment. I say if you kill off the Trout to save the Frog, you also need to kill off the wild horses to save the watering holes for the… Read more »
Now, now BobK, we don’t need to kill off all the wild horses, just enough to share the resources…
Although its kind of a regular occurrence these days to find people spewing misinformed opinions and “facts” seemingly plucked from midair, this represents a new low. Just a few things I would point out. 1. Although they are non indigenous Mustangs are very much a symbol of western culture, and… Read more »
Other wild animals like mule deer, elk, big horn sheep are also wild and represent the western culture. The difference is these animals have their populations managed and they are hunted. The wild horse should be hunted to maintain numbers too. Just like the wild pigs spreading across much of… Read more »
Happy New Year! Year of the horse!
The story I wrote above was at a place called Palomino Valley, it is a wild mustang concentration camp run by the BLM 20 miles north of Reno on the road to Pyramid Lake. It is a place where the once innocent wild and free mustangs that are being rounded… Read more »
Domestic horses are a working animal just like a cow, pig or chicken. There are no native wild horses in the Americas, they were all brought here from Europe to work. The ones you call wild are feral, domestic horses that escaped their owners like a feral cat. Don’t over… Read more »
Why don’t we stop the debate and say the horses are living beings and treat them accordingly. They are not statistics or labels.
Benett Kessler
The fly I swat and kill is a “living breathing creature” too. I am not cruel to animals, and some like dogs are family to me. But a working animal is not on the same level as a human. Don’t over romanticize them. We breed these animals and raise them… Read more »
MJA what you are describing is weaning time. Domestic horses and cattle have to be weaned from their mothers as well. In the wild the juvinile males would be driven from the herd by the dominant male. So what is happening is more “natural” than you think. I don’t know… Read more »
Perhaps this has something to do with her letter,
http://act.wildhorsepreservation.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=16373
Debbe can you please explain why you feel the mustangs in the White Mountains are in danger of being slaughtered? Who is threatening to remove and slaughter them? Mustangs are Federally protected and managed by the BLM’s Wild Horse and Burro Program. If there are too many horses in a… Read more »
As horses as a species are believed to originate in North America and have spread around the world, “rightful homes re-established” would be appropriate if you believe they were extinct on this continent when Europeans arrived. The Lakota/Dakota people say they were here all along. Either way they belong here… Read more »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustang_horse#History Today, the only true wild horse is the Przewalski’s Horse, native to Mongolia. However, the horse family Equidae and the genus Equus evolved in North America and existed in prehistoric times. Studies using ancient DNA as well as DNA of recent individuals shows there once were two closely related… Read more »
Or they were brought by Chinese, Africans, Norse, or others that visited the Americas before Columbus.
Interesting! You should write a wiki page. It would be interesting to read.
Ken, just threw this together for you today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_trans-oceanic_contact
Camels originated in North America as well and the last North American camel disappeared about the same time horses disappeared from North America.
Hi DT, I have some knowledge about this… The camels that you are referring to that you say disappeared from North America were were brought here by the US Government . Interestingly enough, if memory serves, the last of this brigade was decommissioned at Fort Tejon. http://www.forttejon.org/camel.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Camel_Corps Camels are… Read more »
Horse Screams I have made it a habit of late to once a week travel the 20 miles out to the BLM wild mustang gulag out in the Nevada desert and take these magnificent creatures some carrots for a treat. It seems the horses have been deemed in need of… Read more »
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760-873-5329.
Benett Kessler
I see wild horses in Fish Lake Valley just about every time I drive through. They are not native to the area. Can you name any reason for them to roam federal lands besides your personal feelings that they are “noble” and “beautiful”? Public lands policy needs to be based… Read more »
Debbie I hope that the figures you give “75 to 150 horses per acre” are typos. I belive that it would only take about 2 months for the horses to starve on native grazing land without lots of supplemental feed. Who is going to pay for the supplemental feed?
As a representative for the American Wild Horse Preservation you should probably make sure your facts are correct. First of all, I have seen them but not ussually from a car. They are a truly majestic animal and to many an icon of the Wild West. However 150 horses per… Read more »
thanks for the facts lesson! But isn’t there room for all of us in the sand box?
WRT: invasive species — sounds like you could be talking about white men.