Town of Mammoth and MLLA: mediation talks continue


Assistant Town Manager Marianna Marysheva-Martinez said it’s a positive sign that mediation talks are continuing.

“A chance for settlement.” That’s what Mammoth’s Assistant Town Manager said about mediation talks between the Town and Mammoth Lakes Land acquisition.

Marianna Marysheva-Martinez said the court-ordered mediation talks Monday and Tuesday will now continue into Thursday (today). She called this a positive development. The details and nature of talks remain confidential. At stake – MLLA’s lawsuit judgment debt against Mammoth Lakes in the amount of $43 million.

Earlier this week, discussions took place in the law offices of MLLA’s attorneys in Los Angeles. Participants from the Town of Mammoth included Town Manager Dave Wilbrecht, Marysheva-Martinez and attorneys Zack Clement and Ken Klee. Thursday’s continued mediation talks were scheduled to happen by phone.

Asked why the continued mediation talks are positive, Martinez said, “If we did not have much to discuss then mediation would have ended after the first day, and,” she said, “this also means there is a chance for settlement.”

Meanwhile, in Mammoth Lakes the Town Council held two special closed session meetings Monday and Tuesday with another now set for Thursday (today) at 11am. Martinez confirmed that these special meetings are being held to allow the Town Council to respond to Chapter 9 bankruptcy proceedings and to discuss ongoing mediations.

Bankruptcy Court Judge Thomas Holman had ordered the Town and MLLA to go to mediations before proceeding with any other hearings. Attorneys representing Mammoth had asked for expedited hearings to determine the Town’s eligibility for bankruptcy protection, but MLLA lawyers asked for more time to gather information.

There is currently no date set for the eligibility hearing although at last word, MLLA was ordered to submit objections to Mammoth’s bankruptcy case on
August 24th.

Bankruptcy Judge Elizabeth Perris is mediating current talks between the two adversaries.


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31 Responses to Town of Mammoth and MLLA: mediation talks continue

  1. Observer August 8, 2012 at 4:07 pm #

    Thanks, Benett, for getting this update. Hopefully the Town Council is smart enough to settle this now, and then withdraw the bankruptcy petition.

  2. Thank the attorneys August 8, 2012 at 5:02 pm #

    Unfortunately it is the lawyers who can drag this on forever while they get paid everytime they file a “motion to the counter-motion to counter the motion that …”
    And nobody can do a thing about it.
    It would take one of the town’s zillionaires to come up with an offer. The town is broke.

    • Observer August 9, 2012 at 11:15 am #

      The Town can make an initial payment with the money they pre-funded their lawyers with, if they settle now and withdraw the bankruptcy petition. Unfortunately, TOML has spun it’s poverty line so long and loud that it is now accepted wisdom–even though it is unlikely to be solid enough to qualify the Town as Chapter 9 eligible. The Council needs to settle today, and then explain publicly that that they were posturing about having no money after the next snow falls.

      • Problem Solved August 9, 2012 at 2:46 pm #


        I know the Town Council has the ability.

        But how do you settle with someone that won’t even take $23 million for a $5 million dollar investment.

        I understand it’s only an $18 million dollar profit !!!!

        But I guess that’s just not enough !

        • Observer August 10, 2012 at 11:02 am #

          The courts are looking for resolution, not justce. Another reason the TOML should never have let it get as far as a jury.

  3. Politics of greed August 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm #

    And now we have a presidential candidate who wants to copy our local debacle and give tax breaks to his wealthy pals.

    • Problem Solved August 10, 2012 at 5:45 pm #

      Politics of Greed,

      Get a life and stick to the topic !!!

      You sound just like Dr. Facts, Dennis Kozinski, etc.

      • Big AL August 10, 2012 at 10:29 pm #

        OMG .. someone else knows Dr. Facts too? LOL

  4. Poli-Sci August 11, 2012 at 6:22 am #

    The rabid Right does not like it when their mega-rich presidential candidates become exposed for what they are – Greedy little buggers.
    Then they go back and get more “ammunition” from the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck.
    A nasty, angry lot they are and sounding more and more like fascists.

  5. Under-medicated August 11, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    I see “Big A”l & Company are back at it with the usual nothing of substance whatsoever nasty posts doing their absolute drop-dead impersonation of their hero and spokesperson – Rush Limbaugh.
    And this is supposed to rally America around to their far-right angry and divisive philosophy when the country should be focusing on a spirit of harmonious interest instead.
    Their postings would be amusing if not sadly sounding like people who should be taking their entire dosage of medication instead of saving money and breaking the tablet in half.

    • Benett Kessler August 11, 2012 at 7:01 pm #

      Come on, Under, have a little compassion for your fellow man. I don’t think Big Al would describe himself as an
      impersonation of Limbaugh. Al is who he is.

      • Big AL August 11, 2012 at 8:47 pm #

        Thank you Benett … but it is OK. I knew that would be coming, I just consider the source. Dr. Facts would have something good to contribute.
        I know if he can get past the misery he has to deal with. I mean .. in a post on a different thread, he said something I agreed with, only he let the junk cloud the truth of his comment.

        • Judge not lest ye ... August 12, 2012 at 12:13 pm #

          Interesting passing of judgement there, Big Al.

          • Big AL August 13, 2012 at 12:59 am #

            Thank you … thank you very much Dr. Facts I knew you would see it that way.

  6. Trouble August 11, 2012 at 8:15 pm #

    Say it ain’t so Big Al.

  7. He is what he is August 11, 2012 at 8:29 pm #

    And Limbaugh is who he is. A racist, bigoted blowhard who demonizes liberals (aka Democrats) day in day out.

    • Big AL August 12, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

      I know Trouble .. hard to imagine .. but we have to see hope in all things, where are we without hope?
      LOL .. that hope gets really strained at times with Dr. Facts comments, but I believe anyone can change, though sometimes, I wonder.

      I will let him believe that I am limbaugh if he likes, what ever floats his boat, and I can’t wait to see what name comes up next with that comment .. hehe.

      • JeanGenie August 14, 2012 at 4:10 pm #

        with all due respect, I think you are getting some of these people mixed up.
        Since all liberals spout the same mindless pap they heard from somewhere else and don’t think for themselves, they all sound the same.
        Where do they get this stuff? The Re-elect Obama website? Liberal Super-pac fiction?
        I better get out and fly my Confederate flag by Gum!

        • Try to relax August 14, 2012 at 4:47 pm #


          With all due respect, I think you have been listening to Limbaugh and that wacky Tea Party movement a bit too much.
          All of you sound like you’re ready to implode.

          • taxifornia August 15, 2012 at 12:27 pm #

            The only thing imploding is Your County…

            Don’t worry Be Happy!!

        • Jeremiah's Alter Ego August 15, 2012 at 8:26 am #

          I didnt even read the article but since we are talking politics I am gonna throw my free thinking opinion out there.
          They all sound the same? I guess it would sound the same if you disagreed with it all. I have a Idea for you, you can take that confederate flag and march it proudly back to the dirty south.

        • Webster - Not Limbaughs August 15, 2012 at 11:00 am #

          Where to liberals get this stuff, JeanGenie?
          It’s entirely natural to embrace the California live-and-let-live liberal life philosophy.

          (Webster’s definition – not Limbaugh’s “liberals are commies!” definition):

          free, belonging to the people, suitable for a free man, to grow up, rise, not restricted, giving freely, generous, plentiful, ample, not strict, tolerant of views differing from one’s own, broad-minded, not orthodox or conventional, favoring reform or progress, favoring political reforms tending towards democratic and personal freedom for the individual.

          Am I proud to be called a liberal?
          You bet your ass I am.

  8. Non-stop August 13, 2012 at 5:20 am #

    Non-stop childishness from the right.

  9. Factoid August 13, 2012 at 8:06 am #

    “Big” views the use of facts as a terrible thing. I view the presentation of facts to be of substance and helpful in any open and mature debate. (Some view this blog as a meeting place for their ilk). But you cannot expect the far-right to consider ANYTHING (facts included) that differs from their Limbaugh/Fox News neoconservative way of life which amounts to: I am a better American than you.
    The swing-voters are wise to this polarizing childish nonsense and will make their voices heard in November. The question is not a desire for smaller government or bigger government. They simply want a government that works.

    You can thank Dick and Lynne Cheney (former CEOs of defense contractors Halliburton and Lockheed Martin) for a rush to war that made these contractors rich while bankrupting the country trying to pay for the travesty.

    Sorry, but these are THE FACTS.

    • Big AL August 13, 2012 at 6:37 pm #

      So Dr. Facts, how is this a mature debate when you continue to throw out so much BS, and slur people by saying they are limbaughites and just plain act childish in your replies and posts?

      Oh by the way .. I love all of the names you use .. that takes some creativity to head your posts with.

      • Harmonious interest August 14, 2012 at 11:41 am #

        Take some time Big, and try and take some time to reason out what you are saying:
        Facts are bad?
        Stop supplying so many facts on this blog?
        I’m getting sick and tired reading about facts?
        I’d rather focus on ad hominem attacks on this blog than supply any contradicting facts of my own to topics?

        I’m sure you are a fine, upstanding and taxpaying citizen of the U.S., and would like nothing more than to see the country moving towards a spirit of harmonious interest (even in an election year) at a time when all that is happening is the demonization of the word liberal today and a polarization that we haven’t seen since the Civil War.
        And why the obsession with names?
        What is your god-given Christian name, and why aren’t you posting it in full along with the Big Al moniker?


        • JeanGenie August 14, 2012 at 4:04 pm #

          Either you ain’t from around these parts or you aren’t posting with your real name either, so why ding My pal Big Al?

          Actually, Al’s being facetious, but you folks don’t get it. The things you claim are facts are really only the most current propaganda being circulated on the internet. Of course, alot of people today just accept these “facts”, because they must be true right? Someone posted it on the internet?

          If you think everything on the internet (or mainstream media for that matter) is true or a “fact”, just because someone said it, I got a bridge in San Francisco I’d like to sell you.

  10. Trouble August 14, 2012 at 11:06 am #

    I’m not sure what Big Al said to set off so many finger pointers, but from what I have enjoyed reading of Al’s responses over the last year or so, I would hardly call him a far right nut ball. I think he is open minded on most issues and would be the last to label people. I think he stated before he is neither republican or a democrat. I know he’s not to blame for for our wars -FACTIOD.

  11. Well-researched facts August 14, 2012 at 11:53 am #

    No one is blaming anyone for any of our wars, Trouble.
    But it seems to me (as Bennet pointed out) that those who ignore the past are destined to repeat it. It hasn’t been that long ago when Iraqi citizens were “shock-and-awed” at the beginning of the War on Iraq with no WMDs ever found. Only defense contractors benefitted from this mess and the cost of that war has bankrupted the country trying to pay for it.

    The Confederate flag is flying high today amongst some circles within the so-called Tea Party Movement. This, in my humble opinion is something that is difficult to ignore and it seems to me that bringing this sort of thing to light is entirely acceptable on blogs like this even though some have outspoken hatred for certain facts they don’t want to hear.

    I am quite sure Big Al is a good person. But when it comes to racism in this country – I believe Silence is NOT golden and facts (that have been thoroughly researched) will continue to be presented.

  12. Trouble August 14, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

    Will Researched facts or whatever you are next time, if your going to ramble on about topics that are serious political issues, you should seriously consider leaving the personal attacks out of it. The funny part about your most of your criticism of our government is I agree with you. Why add someones name to your statements.

  13. taxifornia August 15, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    “Assistant Town Manager Marianna Marysheva-Martinez said it’s a positive sign that mediation talks are continuing.”

    Positive for her because she still has her Job..$$$$


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