Visitors, etc. in Mammoth Lakes

Projected Occupancy Report

Good Morning,

The total projected average resort occupancy* is as follows:

Friday, March 2, 2012 – Saturday, March 3, 2012 = 59%
(68% same weekend in 2011, down in 2012)

Sunday. March 4, 2012 – Thursday, March 8, 2012 = 33%
(37% same midweek in 2011, down in 2012)

Hotels/Motels/B&B: 74% (Friday-Saturday) 36% (Sunday-Thursday)

Condos: 44% (Friday-Saturday) 30% (Sunday-Thursday)

Please remember the projected occupancy is calculated in order to assist the business community with staffing levels and product ordering. The actual occupancy percentages are reported from the lodging industry to the Town of Mammoth Lakes Finance Department.


Sprint U.S. Grand Prix
March 1-4, 2012
Get front row seats to this nationally televised contest as you watch the top snowboarders and freeskiers go big in the half pipe and slopestlye events at Mammoth Mountain Ski Area.


31 Responses to Visitors, etc. in Mammoth Lakes

  1. Chunky March 4, 2012 at 7:13 am #

    Don’t worry, Obama says the economy is rebounding, 46.5 million on food stamps, 46.5 million , %54 percent of adults(18-24of age) are unemployed, gas is over $4 dollars a gal. pretty much everywhere, This is Change we can believe in. And this is only the beginning

    • Bemused March 4, 2012 at 11:43 am #

      …says another Fox News “informed” stooge.

    • Wayne Deja March 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm #

      54% of 18 to 24 year olds are unemployed?…Where did you get that from?…..If that is true….and that’s a BIG if,a big reason for it is because a lot of 18-24 year olds either aren’t looking for work or don’t want to work.I have always felt,no matter where you live,if your willing to work for less than $15.00 an hour,there’s plenty of work out there….rake some leaves,mow some lawns,make some dump runs,etc.,etc.,etc.

      • STEVEN March 6, 2012 at 9:20 am #

        Wayne Deja seems correct. I just fired the second white American guy that was 30 or under and it was because he was lazy. Probably drank and smoked too much pot. I could not get these guys to understand their basic jobs and they would not be very motivated ever! They take no direction seriously and will probably always struggle in life. I am not sure what they taught them in school about work ethics and skills that they could have learned like metal and wood class, if they even had those options, but I’m about to change my strategy to hiring children of illegal aliens that seem to appreciate a good steady job! I cant believe I am saying this but, I may even show them all my knowledge and all the tricks of the trade, because I was willing to do the same for the white guy and all he said was I can build a house from the ground up but did not even know how to do basic plumbing and electrical. I think the youth of the day have been let down in their schooling and job preparations, and have become complacent and entitled and if they do not get with the times on their own, they will always be poor and without, or reliant on Momma and welfare. As for my help that are gone now, Their will be no unemployment check coming from my insurance. Only what they can get from the welfare program. With the massive lay offs at the mountain, their will be a pretty good amount of people looking for jobs and it will be really hard I assume for these two to find one now.
        I can see their average day now. Wake and bake, have some beers, go play on the mountain with the last of their year pass, call Momma for money, check the mail box later for their food card, get drunk and go back to sleep and wait for another fun filled day. Their are more of these people in Mammoth than you think!

        • Ken Warner March 6, 2012 at 12:30 pm #

          When I was young and stupid (there should be one word that combines the two because they seem to go together so well) I found hunger and cold to be very good motivators for finding and keeping a job.

          If all you have to do is call “Mommy” then why would anybody take their employment seriously. That doesn’t mean that a whole class of people are beyond redemption. This is where you have to apply a case by case analysis.

          No, all young white men are irresponsible — no, all young Hispanics are not necessarily “good workers” It just depends.

        • Wayne Deja March 7, 2012 at 8:59 am #

          Steven…The same kind of stories at my job…One young guy claiming to know all about the business,but in short order finding out he knew little.He took 7 hours to do a job a monkey could do in 3.He knew little about maintenance jobs around town.And every chance he got would laze around untill 5pm quitting time.After a couple months he got a DUI for driving while high on pot,kept the arrest a secret,but when I found out what happened and let the boss know he got fired…He was driving WITHOUT A LICENSE on the job.Another instance kind of the same thing a few years later,only an older guy…knew everything about everything untill it was clear he knew little about anything.And had no intrest in learning.His only intrest was to get a weekly paycheck and leave all the work for others to finish.

          • Big AL March 7, 2012 at 4:49 pm #

            Yep it’s kind of like what I said in an earlier post, the present generation has lost a lot of common sense and a sense of a good work ethic, but then the ones who suffer from this, usually have a very good teacher.

            As Ken said, it is not the whole generation, but it is a good part of it, and … it is a good part of our society at large, that part seems to be growing, as we lose more of our values.

            I’ve worked for the same outfit for coming up on 33 years. in the last 15 of those years, I seen how much new hires are not qualified to do jobs they’re hired for.

            The testing standards have lowered to try to get people in, it doesn’t seem to matter if they don’t have the skills, just hire them.

            this is yet another sign of society’s lowered standards, why should some have to worry about performing, and putting forth one’s best effort when we don’t expect it of them?

            Yes it is not the whole generation, we can not generalize it as with anything really, yes Ken I do see a lot of hope in the generation.
            My own son had to flop around a little bit until he figured it out, and he still is figuring it out, but he is willing to work, and does not want someone to give him a hand out Everyone tells me, he is a good hard worker. I see a lot of them around, it just seems at times when you see the opposite, it seems like that is all there is out there, but that is not the case.

    • Ken Warner March 4, 2012 at 4:31 pm #

      The number of people on food stamps began increasing the year Bush took office.

      And thank whatever god you believe in that there are 45 million less hungry people.

      The number of unemployed began increasing in Feb 2007 — was 7.8% Jan 2009 when Obama took office — peaked at 10% in Oct. 2009 and has been diminishing since.!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:US&ifdim=country&tstart=-694022400000&tend=1325664000000&hl=en&dl=en

      The national average cost of gasoline $4.00 in June 2008 and is now about $3.65.

      Thank whatever that Obama had the brains to pull us out of the shithole Bush left us in.

      But we have the option to vote for a guy who thinks birth control is Satan’s tool or another guy who is as variable as the wind. Good choices.

      • upthecreek March 5, 2012 at 4:38 pm #


        Nobody pulled us of ANYTHING…No matter what party you belong to

        .. It is the Party of “out of control”
        Good luck to all


      • Trouble March 5, 2012 at 11:00 pm #

        Ken- you are 100% correct, but a little to nice.

      • kaat March 6, 2012 at 12:32 am #

        @ Ken said: “But we have the option to vote for a guy who thinks birth control is Satan’s tool.. .”

        With the exception of condoms do you understand the negative effects of birth control on a woman’s body and on the environment. There is a lot wrong with birth control, most of it resulting in women being thought of as objects instead of people. You don’t have to be of a certain political party to know that birth control is a huge profit making machine too… And don’t even get me started on abortions (another form of ‘birth control’)….it is insane to think that women ‘want’ the right to kill a fetus that will, if left alone, develop into a human being….who sold women that “right” as something to embrace and demand…give me a break…and to be sure that industry is a big money maker too!

        I don’t know about the Satan thing that you are referring to BUT do not assume that all is good for women with regards to birth control!

        Those running for office are entitled to their opinions, and you of course can mock them….however, realize that we can do the same to you sir.

        But then again….wouldn’t it be better to debate vs. mock?

        • Benett Kessler March 6, 2012 at 11:27 am #

          Debate is always superior to mocking. I will note, however, that I personally believe government has no business
          dictating what women do in regard to their sex and reproductive lives. There are personal matters that should be
          left up to the individual. The line up of men, male religious leaders, etc., in front of Congress to discuss birth
          control was ridiculous. In America, individuals have a chance to develop their own choices and ways of living.
          Government needs to get out of the most intimate and personal areas of our lives. Quit telling us what religion to
          believe, too.
          Benett Kessler

        • Ken Warner March 6, 2012 at 12:45 pm #

          kaat — WOW! That’s unbelievable! You’re missive could be the source for volumes of analysis.

          I’ll just make some small comments.

          “.it is insane to think that women ‘want’ the right to kill a fetus that will, if left alone, develop into a human being” Yet the government reserves the right to kill as many of those who, “,,,develop into a human being…” as they want. And the “Defense” industry makes the birth control “industry” look like a lemonade stand.

          “do you understand the negative effects of birth control on a woman’s body and on the environment.” Do you understand what the effect on the World’s population and environment would be without easily accessible birth control? You sound like you’ve been taking your talking points from Rush.

  2. jose chavez March 4, 2012 at 9:44 pm #

    in my opinion, the reason why most 18-24 yr olds are un employed is, un-motivated, is the slacker/entiltement generation. there may be more reasons, who knows…..

    • Big AL March 5, 2012 at 10:55 pm #

      Well I think you’re right about the slacker entitlement un motivated thing. But it isn’t really the present younger generation that is guilty of it, it started with their parents generation, but it was caused by the tail end of the baby boomer generation, when they all started thinking we need to do for everyone.
      And give them what ever they want, and not to worry about paying anything back, just take the hand out.
      Until that time everyone pretty much had a high work ethic, people know you had to work hard, and do the best you can.
      It was what you were taught by the previous generation. And yes, if you didn’t get a job that was high paying, you made due, with that job or worked two jobs.
      Now days, as Ken said, if most people can’t get what they are looking for they thumb their nose up at something that pays under what the expect. So now they are looking around, in vein for something with pay they expect. Or they just go hangout get high, drunk .. or just veg .. why the heck should I go look if they are not going to give $15.00 or more?
      But as I said, it is not just the younger gen. it is something that seems to plague more than just them.
      It is tough to find a good paying or decent job in this area, the job pool is like a puddle compared to the lake of job seekers. As Ken said, work is out there to be found, for those who really want to work, and are not afraid to work for less than their expectations.

      Maybe it would help to force the ones that are collecting the hand out, who can work .. to work. That can be done too and be effective in building better char actor in our society today. But then .. the liberals will cry abuse, then we are right back to where we were, on the downward slide.

  3. native March 5, 2012 at 6:15 pm #

    The only one “out of control” here is you. You would make a great addition to the show Doomsday Preppers.

    • upthecreek March 6, 2012 at 9:32 pm #

      @ Native

      Sounds like you are very familiar with that show..LOL


  4. Rock of Ages March 5, 2012 at 8:41 pm #

    Ken…your graphs simply depict the demorization of America. All you really suppose here is that Bush had more heart for the poor and underpriviledged during the economic bubble than any firm lefties want to credit him for. I’m SO over the blame Bush thing! The legislature responsible for the economic reserves of the ’80’s was Republican, the overreaching spending of the ’00’s were the Dem’s. The Tea Baggers, as you like to call them, advocate a society of self reliance, a quality you seem to often subscribe to. Also THE principle this country based it’s foundation on.You’re all over the map, dude! A man at church yesterday, reluctanctly admitted to me that he recieved church funds during tough times in his past…but then paid them back, as soon as he was able and back on his feet financially. He’s 70+ yrs. old…THAT’s what I’m trying to say here! Got any answers? From the God that YOU beleive in?

    • Benett Kessler March 5, 2012 at 11:16 pm #

      Question: In your estimation, do a number of “Tea Baggers”rely on Social Security and Medicare? If so,
      why not provide help of different kinds for other needs – universal health care, which could be considered
      extended Medicare? Or is help only for those over 65 or 62? Benett Kessler

      • kaat March 6, 2012 at 12:15 am #

        “universal health care” is seemingly going to be required for all people, and if you opt-out you pay a fine, but you pay either way, so it is forced, no? One pays into social security (forced) but you don’t have to collect it, you don’t have to cash the checks and you don’t have to use Medicare. Personal choice is important (to me and others), and that is where the difference in opinion rests. The government cannot and should not do everything for everybody.

        • Benett Kessler March 6, 2012 at 11:29 am #

          When it comes to health care, the government should offer the option of care. In a civilized and wealthy society, it is a tragedy that many
          people die because they are afraid to go to the hospital for care without insurance that they can’t afford. Ask local doctors. It goes on
          right here in our area. BK

          • Bemused March 6, 2012 at 12:02 pm #

            Bravo BK

        • Ken Warner March 6, 2012 at 1:08 pm #

          More brave words. The government is not doing everything for you, the government (aka we the people) just want you to step up to your responsibility and be prepared for the inevitable. Something you think you have the right to be unprepared for — at the cost of increasing responsible people’s health insurance costs.

          The reason for the mandate that everybody have health insurance is that people like you who say you want the right to choose having health insurance and choose not to will eventually wind up in an Emergency Room to treat sickness that could have been prevented or mitigated early on by regular visits to a doctor previously.

          And what about those uninsured who have suddenly become injured — like from skiing or other sports? Then they have to go to the ER to save their lives and the rest of us who have health insurance pay for it with increased premiums to cover the expenses of those who don’t have health insurance.

          Your analysis is typically shallow and you will someday refute your own arguments when you become sick or injured — conditions that are guaranteed to happen to you. Wait until you get really sick or injured — then see how fast you accept help from wherever you can get it.

      • Tourbillon March 6, 2012 at 3:52 pm #

        The term “Tea Bagger” was originally a crude pejorative applied against gays to demean them. Its use now as a vulgar parody of the name of a group of your fellow citizens with whom you happen to disagree politically is no less odious. Permitting its promiscuous use on this site and now repeating it editorially is an unusual way to foster civility, unless your aim is to appeal to vulgarians, in which case you may consider this day seized.

        • Benett Kessler March 6, 2012 at 4:03 pm #

          You’re right. It’s used so commonly I have forgotten its origin. The rest of my reply stands as is, however. BK

        • Ken Warner March 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm #

          Oh please, outrage against a label while applying labels all over the place like the World was your refrigerator door. Who cares? And given the chosen name of the group is Tea Party, one more level of rediculosity seems barely noticeable.

        • upthecreek March 7, 2012 at 10:12 am #

          since I have been called a “Tea bagger” on this blog many times I would have to agree with you.

          Awake ..YES

          Teabagger … NO

    • Ken Warner March 6, 2012 at 3:39 am #

      Once again (this is really tiring) the Tea Bags have created their own alternate universe where they are wanting to, “… move on…” and are “…so over blaming Bush…” because they don’t want to take the responsibility for their deeds so they can excoriate others for doing what they did.

      “The legislature responsible for the economic reserves of the ’80′s was Republican”

      Wrong [sigh] from ’81 to 86, the Republicans controlled only the House. The Democrats controlled the House from ’87 to ’93. The Democrats controlled the Senate from 1949 to 1993.

      “…the overreaching spending of the ’00′s were the Dem’s,,,” The Rep

      Not correct again. The Republicans controlled both House and Senate for most of the time Bush was in office. The Democrats only controlled the House and Senate for the 110’th Congress from 2007-09. By which time the recession was inevitable given the Bush tax cuts for the rich and the deregulation of the banking industry.

      And as for the Tea Baggers — they are primarily funded by the Koch Industries who started the Americans For Prosperity group which eventually morphed into the Tea Party in 2009 to protest Obama’s $750 billion bailout of Wall St. while conveniently forgetting Bush’s TARP which some estimate to cost several trillion dollars (lets move on shall we).

      Estimated Total Costs of Bailout

      * Fannie and Freddie bailout = $700 billion estimated, at least, on their $5 trillion portfolio.

      * Federal Reserve’s increased printing of money to fund purchase of mortgage securities in market and bad assets from banks (which directly leads to an equal amount of inflation, a hidden tax on consumers and savers) = $2 trillion.

      * Eventual FDIC losses = $500 billion.

      * Credit union guarantees = $50 billion.

      * Present value cost of lost interest income to US retirees and other savers due to government’s zero interest rate policy = $2 trillion.

      * Present value cost of additional high unemployment and lost wages caused by government’s focusing on bank and Wall Street profitability first, rather than on job creation = $5 trillion.

      * Total loss in housing values due to inappropriate response to overbuilding and high foreclosure problem = $4 trillion (a fraction of the total housing value loss of10 trillion, much of which was necessary to return to non-bubble levels).

      * Cost of future bad loans created since 2008 by Fannnie, Freddie and FHA by continuing to lend aggressively into declining real estate markets = $300 billion.

      * Wasted stimulus money (Where exactly did this money go and what do we have to show for it?) = $300 billion.

      * Total estimated cost of government bailout = $14.85 trillion.

      But hey, let’s move on — I’m so over blaming Obama and the Democrats.

      And it’s really (tragically) funny to hear Tea Bags talk about self reliance while they use tax payer provided infrastructure every minute of their lives.

  5. Rock of Ages March 5, 2012 at 8:53 pm #

    for you spell checkers…yes I meant “demoralization”….

    • Big AL March 5, 2012 at 11:52 pm #

      LOL I knew what you meant Rock

  6. Ken Warner March 6, 2012 at 3:55 am #

    … and one more thing. The Tea Party is what they call an “Astro Turf” or fake grass roots movement funded by big business to promote deregulation — so they can pollute the oceans like BP did in the Gulf — and avoid taxes and ship jobs overseas without any pesky government interference. And the Tea Bags bought it and believe they are promoting “self reliance” when they are really just supporting the rape of America and the rest of the World.

    “Charles and David Koch own 84% of Koch Industries, the second-largest private company in the United States. It runs oil refineries, coal suppliers, chemical plants and logging firms, and turns over roughly $100bn a year; the brothers are each worth $21bn. The company has had to pay tens of millions of dollars in fines and settlements for oil and chemical spills and other industrial accidents. The Kochs want to pay less tax, keep more profits and be restrained by less regulation. Their challenge has been to persuade the people harmed by this agenda that it’s good for them.”

    “…Oldham infiltrated some of the movement’s key organising events, including the 2009 Defending the American Dream summit, convened by a group called Americans for Prosperity (AFP). The film shows David Koch addressing the summit. “Five years ago,” he explains, “my brother Charles and I provided the funds to start Americans for Prosperity. It’s beyond my wildest dreams how AFP has grown into this enormous organisation.”

    “The movement began when CNBC’s Rick Santelli called from the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange for a bankers’ revolt against the undeserving poor. (He proposed that the traders should hold a tea party to dump derivative securities in Lake Michigan to prevent Obama’s plan to “subsidise the losers”: by which he meant people whose mortgages had fallen into arrears.) On the same day, Americans for Prosperity set up a Tea Party Facebook page and started organising Tea Party events”


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